Scrollbar moved

Scrollbar moved

[Michael Satterwhite]

I'm running emacs on Debian sarge under KDE. I have no idea what I've done,
but the scrollbars have moved from the right side of the screen to the left
side of the screen. I know it works the same, but it's driving me crazy for
it to be on the "wrong" side.

Can anyone let me know how to move it back to the right?

tia
---Michael

Re: Scrollbar moved

[David Kastrup]

Michael Satterwhite <michael.XREMOVETHIS@weblore.com> writes:

> I'm running emacs on Debian sarge under KDE. I have no idea what I've done,
> but the scrollbars have moved from the right side of the screen to the left
> side of the screen. I know it works the same, but it's driving me crazy for
> it to be on the "wrong" side.
> 
> Can anyone let me know how to move it back to the right?

They are on the right side.  Scroll bars are clicked on with the
mouse, and the mouse will be more useful near the left border than
near the right border when you are editing (unless you happen to type
Hebrew or Arabic texts).  When you partly obscur your editor window
and want to scroll it, you are much more likely to have the right side
obscured, and thus the scroll bars inaccessible.  Scrolling a window
of which you can only see the left half makes much more sense than
scrolling a window of which you see only the right half.

Do M-x customize-variable RET scroll-bar-mode RET to change that
setting, but if you want to use the scroll bars effectively, it would
be a good idea to try them on the left for a while.  It was not mere
stupidity that moved them there.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

Re: Scrollbar moved

[Carsten Weinberg]

David Kastrup wrote:

>be a good idea to try them on the left for a while.  It was not mere
>stupidity that moved them there.
>
>  
>
its normal for KDE applications that the scroll bar is located at the 
right, as it is true for GNOME, and Windows and Mac applications. That 
emacs defaults to an scroll bar located at the left is nothing else than 
an curious relic of dogmatism.

Re: Scrollbar moved

[David Kastrup]

Carsten Weinberg <cweinberg@freenet.de> writes:

> David Kastrup wrote:
> 
> >be a good idea to try them on the left for a while.  It was not mere
> >stupidity that moved them there.
> >
> >  
> its normal for KDE applications that the scroll bar is located at the
> right, as it is true for GNOME, and Windows and Mac applications. That
> emacs defaults to an scroll bar located at the left is nothing else
> than an curious relic of dogmatism.

No, it has to do with the fact that Emacs is an editor.  With
applications that are basically viewers, you don't need the mouse
cursor more often on the left than on the right.

With an editor, you need it on the left most of the time if you are
positioning by mouse.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

Re: Scrollbar moved

[Miles Bader]

Carsten Weinberg <cweinberg@freenet.de> writes:
> its normal for KDE applications that the scroll bar is located at the
> right, as it is true for GNOME, and Windows and Mac applications. That
> emacs defaults to an scroll bar located at the left is nothing else than
> an curious relic of dogmatism.

Not at all, it's simply that the Emacs developers think about such
things more deeply than the above groups.

-Miles
-- 
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