From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:16:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <016b01c51163$45e1d630$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <16186.217.194.34.123.1108368907.squirrel@wwws.franken.de> <4210762C.9030203@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108401311 7696 80.91.229.2 (14 Feb 2005 17:15:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 14 18:15:10 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0joK-0007wV-DE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:15:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0k3t-0007GY-P7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:31:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D0k3L-0007FT-OI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:30:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D0k3K-0007Em-Ea for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:30:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0k3K-0007Ea-AK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:30:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D0jpQ-0000OC-R3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:16:08 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D0jlN-0008S1-GL; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:11:58 -0500 Original-To: Ralf Angeli In-Reply-To: (Ralf Angeli's message of "Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:57:59 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33399 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33399 Ralf Angeli writes: > * David Kastrup (2005-02-14) writes: > >> Miles Bader writes: >> >>> Hmmm; here's a simple example: >>> >>> (x-show-tip >>> (propertize "*** hello ***" >>> 'face '(variable-pitch :foreground "green" >>> :background "steelblue" >>> :height 3.0))) >> >> I have not been using x-show-tip directly ever but merely help-echo >> properties, but that should make no difference. > > I just saw those tooltips the first time in my life by enabling > tooltip-mode and hovering with the mouse pointer over some menus > generated by AUCTeX. If one is used to native GTK tooltips, the ones > generated by Emacs look really awkward. Uh what? Tooltips are enabled by default. At least I get them also with -q -no-site-file. The customization buffer says, however, This is a customization buffer. `Raised' buttons show active fields; type RET or click mouse-1 on an active field to invoke its action. Editing an option value changes the text in the buffer; invoke the State button and choose the Set operation to set the option value. Invoke Help for more information. Operate on everything in this buffer: Set for Current Session Save for Future Sessions Reset Reset to Saved Erase Customization Finish Tooltip Mode: Hide Toggle on (non-nil) State: this option has been changed outside the customize buffer. Which would appear rather wrong, as it would mean that you could not customize tooltips off even if you wanted to. How comes that your Emacs behaves differently than mine? Have you explicitly disabled tooltips, or am I just being crazy in some manner again? -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum