From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Grep and font-lock Date: 25 Apr 2004 21:18:08 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <102F157B-9374-11D8-991C-000D93505B76@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1082920855 18637 80.91.224.253 (25 Apr 2004 19:20:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 25 21:20:49 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BHpBJ-0007Um-00 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 21:20:49 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BHpBI-0008BK-00 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 21:20:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BHp9N-0002fU-FN for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:18:49 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BHp9G-0002eN-Ow for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:18:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BHp8k-0002WX-Hs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:18:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BHp8k-0002WT-9s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:18:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BHp6x-0000qS-Gi; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:16:19 -0400 Original-To: Simon Josefsson In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22134 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22134 Simon Josefsson writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > > > That being said, I think we should change the default of > > font-lock to "on": new users consider it a great and helpful > > feature and are used to getting it from their editors and on > > relying on this sort of syntax analysis. > > > > Maybe you are right. What do others think? > > I think so too. What would a reason for not enabling it by default > be? Disabled persons might not be able to see enough to disable the default setting again. I think we already discussed this at one time, and one proposal was to have a -bw option that would switch faces to just foreground color and background color, preferably maybe even choosing different font shapes instead of font colors. The discussion tapered off at some time. Even if we don't implement the full last proposal (which about everyone agreed would be nice to have), we should perhaps at least provide a basic -bw switch that would cooperate with -reversevideo (or what it was called): quite a few of people with sight disabilities use white on black. > I think today more users find font-lock helpful, compared to those > who don't. Monochrome users have been said to dislike font-locking > in the past, but perhaps that can be fixed by simply choosing better > highlighting for monochrome? -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum