From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows Date: 24 Aug 2004 23:55:44 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1B3ACCFD5694A94DBA4E231402B0E9ED2462CA@mucmail1.sdm.de> <76C9DE70-F613-11D8-B60C-00039390AB82@mac.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1093384599 4876 80.91.224.253 (24 Aug 2004 21:56:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Lennart Borgman ' , 'Emacs Devel ' , 'Dhruva Krishnamurthy ' , "Berndl, Klaus" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 24 23:56:16 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BzjH5-0002oH-00 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:56:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BzjLb-0003Bt-Oo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:00:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BzjLU-0003Bm-23 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:00:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BzjLS-0003BZ-J6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:00:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BzjLS-0003BW-Fk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:00:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BzjGd-0000kV-Ai for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:55:47 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BzjGc-0007q2-4I; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:55:46 -0400 Original-To: Steven Tamm In-Reply-To: <76C9DE70-F613-11D8-B60C-00039390AB82@mac.com> Original-Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:26459 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:26459 Steven Tamm writes: > Point taken. I guess I should have said "FSF Emacs"? If you really want to get people upset, that is a pretty certain way to do so. Emacs is Emacs, and the FSF, while being the copyright holder, is so on behalf of the GNU project and its developers. If someone chose to forked a version of AUCTeX (of which I am maintainer) and then somebody suggested that the version that I am maintaining and distributing should be renamed to "Kastrup AUCTeX", I would be offended. Because the project is not just a private pet of mine. The proper directory name for Emacs is usually "emacs" on Unix-like systems (which are traditionally all-lowercase). As a subdirectory of "C:\My Programs" however, "Emacs" would appear more appropriate. There is no reason to call the directory anything else, since no other program calls itself "Emacs". The only possible consideration might be appending the version number to better facilitate parallel installations of multiple Emacsen. However, I would advise against making this the default: it only means that it becomes harder to find the currently "canonical" Emacs on a computer. If somebody wants to install parallel versions, he can easily enough change the default name. > One problem with the Mac OS X version of Emacs is being able to > distinguish the windowing system/gui used: None (curses), X11, or > Carbon. On my machine I have each version running; and on windows I > have an NT/Win32 and a cygwin (X11) version as well. Should the > installer make explicit which GUI version it is installing? It should display it, but I don't think it should be reflected in the proposed default name of the directory. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum