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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Eliminating "changed in Emacs outside of Customize"
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 22:35:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5ekg0q7yu.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <008801c508a4$01110ac0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:19:36 +0100")

"Lennart Borgman" <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se> writes:

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Kastrup" <dak@gnu.org>
>
>> Wrong.  Customize does not touch variables that have been set
>> outside of it.  Whether the set-default is executed before or after
>> customize initializes its variables does not matter.  The only
>> difference is that if it is customized before, custom-set-variables
>> will call the :set function (after the fact), something which does
>> not happen otherwise.
>
> Can you please give an example of this? I just tried to test with
> (setq debug-on-error t) and then M-x customize-option,
> debug-on-error. The customize GUI worked and I could change and save
> debug-on-error.
>
> There seem to be something I do not understand. Maybe you are
> referring to what custom-set-variables does when custom-file is
> loaded?

It appears that I am babbling and confusing this with something else.

Probably with custom-declare-variable calling the setter function if
the value of the variable has been set before custom-declare-variable
is executed.

Sorry for the confusion.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-01 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-26  0:03 Eliminating "changed in Emacs outside of Customize" Richard Stallman
2005-01-31 10:33 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-02-01 13:30   ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-01 14:32     ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-02-01 18:58       ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 20:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-01 20:38           ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 20:44           ` David Kastrup
2005-02-01 21:05             ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 23:52               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-01 21:19             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-01 21:35               ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-02-01 22:11                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-01 22:26                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-02  1:03                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-02  1:34                       ` Drew Adams
2005-02-02  2:11                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-02  2:51                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03  6:40                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-01 22:28                   ` David Kastrup
2005-02-01 22:40                   ` Drew Adams
2005-02-03  6:39                     ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03  7:29                       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-05  5:27                         ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 16:54                       ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 22:40                 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-01 21:25           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03  6:39             ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-02  7:57           ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-02-02 18:33             ` Drew Adams
2005-02-02 21:04               ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-02 22:11                 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-02 22:55                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-02 22:45                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 15:49                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 16:12                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 15:51                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 16:01                     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 19:14                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-04  7:27                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 19:12             ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 19:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-03 19:59                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-03 20:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-05  5:31                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 20:53               ` Drew Adams
2005-02-03 22:08                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 22:13                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-04  1:04                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-04  1:31                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-04  3:16                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 21:10               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-03  6:39           ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03  6:41       ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-03 14:42         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-03 15:23           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-03 15:48           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-01 15:41   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-02  7:40     ` Per Abrahamsen

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