Re: Starting emacs without initial frame

[David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>]

Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:

> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>>> Is there a way to start emacs without an initial frame like the
>>> --unmapped option in xemacs?
>>
>> Not that I know.  You can make the initial frame unmapped, but it'll be
>> unmapped only after the .emacs is read, so it'll temporarily appear.
>
> Kind of stupid that, isn't it?  I vaguely recall that Gerd
> successfully changed Emacs to map the initial frame only _after_
> .emacs was read, but people who did weird things in their .emacs
> complained so this eminently reasonable behavior was dropped for
> "compatibility".
>
> It seems to me that it would much nicer to have Emacs map the frame
> only after .emacs is read, and add a (map-frame) function or
> something that people could use to force it to map earlier.

At the current point of time, the only sensible way of turning the
toolbar off (and similar manipulations affecting display geometry) is
by manipulating X resources.  All other options will lead to window
resizes, meaning that the chosen startup frame layout is wrong.
Basically most of the "Hide/Show" menu is affected.

Mapping late would help a lot.

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