From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:45:55 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <87d5tvijrk.fsf@verizon.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111279715 12825 80.91.229.2 (20 Mar 2005 00:48:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 01:48:35 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCobt-00025x-B5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:48:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCosg-00030t-6h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:05:26 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 17 Original-X-Trace: individual.net 2Z2Lj5Y2cZUpxkyaT5EDTAMLKR6A2sUcE2Mj3tcOBVsRmU0ilK X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HCFiBhrSnXfxGCL6t+OTA7slNAI= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:129453 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25008 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25008 Shawn Betts writes: > PT writes: > >> By arrow keys I also mean text selection with shift+arrow keys, >> etc. It is pretty standard in modern systems, so it should be turned >> on by default. > > Are you saying Emacs is not a modern system? Should we add a Start > button to Emacs too? It'd help newbs feel warm and fuzzy and its > pretty standard on "modern systems." How about a "Startle" button? It could randomly call a function such as zone, insert-zippyism, psychoanalyze-pinhead... -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum