From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How Many Emacs Users? Date: 22 Feb 2004 12:53:15 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <878yiw8aox.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <7illmw3pfb.fsf@neoscale.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1077451331 20286 80.91.224.253 (22 Feb 2004 12:02:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 22 13:02:08 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AusJD-00065R-00 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:02:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AusIb-0002fN-P5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:01:29 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!pd950a058.dip.t-dialin.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd950a058.dip.t-dialin.net (217.80.160.88) Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1077450796 49971056 I 217.80.160.88 ([198409]) X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:121118 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:17068 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:17068 Brad Collins writes: > > Between 2 and 4 million I'd say. > > Thanks for the replys -- back channeled as well... > > This is not a life or death thing. And it's obvious there is no way > of determining how many people who use any flavour of Unix or > Gnu/Linux could be using, so I think it would be better to use a > simular approach that is used by congressional offices and say that > for every person subscribed to a Emacs mailing list there are X > number users who aren't. No way, Jose. Emacs mailing lists are for the people actually interested in details. But Emacs is one of the main editor variants. A _lot_ of people use it that would never want to even get acquainted with it more closely. At a time where the average Emacs user compiled and installed his Emacs by hand, the mailing list numbers might have still had some relation to the actual user numbers. But since Emacs pretty much by now is a standard GNU component and one of the default "big" editors for Linux, the silent masses are too dominant to be discounted. Would you estimate the number of Microsoft Office users from the subscribers to some mailing list? If you did, they may have already lost the desktop war. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum