From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows Date: 04 Aug 2004 22:55:15 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <001401c478de$908a92d0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <1091508072.20683.201576204@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4111491A.4090601@runestig.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1091652948 14658 80.91.224.253 (4 Aug 2004 20:55:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 20:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lennart Borgman , Dhruva Krishnamurthy , Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 04 22:55:37 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BsSnR-0008CZ-00 for ; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 22:55:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BsSqw-0004tO-NJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:59:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BsSqq-0004tF-Du for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:59:08 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BsSqp-0004si-CP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BsSqp-0004sR-5V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BsSn9-00046z-3k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:55:19 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BsSn7-0000QM-UU; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:55:18 -0400 Original-To: "Peter 'Luna' Runestig" In-Reply-To: <4111491A.4090601@runestig.com> Original-Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:26182 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:26182 "Peter 'Luna' Runestig" writes: > On 2004-08-03 06:41, Dhruva Krishnamurthy wrote: > > What ever approach you/anyone writing an Installation program for > > MS OS takes, IMO, please make sure we do not have to have _admin_ > > rights to install. This is a real stopper. I have found many users > > giving up on lot of tools due to this limitation. > > Why? Why should "lusers" install new software on a computer? Because freedom is too important to be contrained to the ranks of revolutionists and appointed Windows administrators? That's why we support operating systems like Windows in the first place when it can be done with reasonable effort and without sacrificing quality for the free systems. If you want to have people come to you, the way is not by barricading their doors and telling them to jump out of windows if they want to be free. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum