Xft / anti-aliased font support?

Xft / anti-aliased font support?

[Geronimo]

Hello all--

Running GNU emacs 21.2.1 on a Linux RH 9 / Gnome 2.2 box. Is there Xft 
support for this release? For desktop consistency, I would like to run 
emacs w/ anti-aliased fonts. Thanks.

Re: Xft / anti-aliased font support?

[David Kastrup]

Geronimo <user@server.com> writes:

> Running GNU emacs 21.2.1 on a Linux RH 9 / Gnome 2.2 box. Is there
> Xft support for this release? For desktop consistency, I would like
> to run emacs w/ anti-aliased fonts. Thanks.

Not possible AFAIK.  The current developer Emacs has antialiased fonts
in the menus when compiled with GTK.  But not in the main text.  I
recommend to use the 10x20 font: it is perfectly legible with high
contrast and pleasant stroke widths without antialiasing.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

Re: Xft / anti-aliased font support?

[Florian Weimer]

* David Kastrup:

> Not possible AFAIK.  The current developer Emacs has antialiased fonts
> in the menus when compiled with GTK.  But not in the main text.  I
> recommend to use the 10x20 font: it is perfectly legible with high
> contrast and pleasant stroke widths without antialiasing.

Which 10x20 font?  Is it free?  Can you post a fontset description?
Or is this the 10x20 font from the font menu?

I'm currently using Bitsream Vera Sans Mono, which gets at least "O0"
and "1li" right, but I'm always open for new suggestions.

Re: Xft / anti-aliased font support?

[David Kastrup]

Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> writes:

> * David Kastrup:
> 
> > Not possible AFAIK.  The current developer Emacs has antialiased fonts
> > in the menus when compiled with GTK.  But not in the main text.  I
> > recommend to use the 10x20 font: it is perfectly legible with high
> > contrast and pleasant stroke widths without antialiasing.
> 
> Which 10x20 font?  Is it free?  Can you post a fontset description?
> Or is this the 10x20 font from the font menu?

Yup.  And for me just placing

Emacs.font: 10x20

into the X resources was sufficient for Emacs to figure out the rest
of the fontset on its own.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

Re: Xft / anti-aliased font support?

[Florian Weimer]

* David Kastrup:

> Yup.  And for me just placing
>
> Emacs.font: 10x20
>
> into the X resources was sufficient for Emacs to figure out the rest
> of the fontset on its own.

I see.  The font itself isn't too bad, but it has got an annoying ",."
bug (shouldn't be too hard to fix, though).  What's worse: My system
lacks bold and oblique variants. 8-(  Do you have them?

Re: Xft / anti-aliased font support?

[David Kastrup]

Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> writes:

> * David Kastrup:
> 
> > Yup.  And for me just placing
> >
> > Emacs.font: 10x20
> >
> > into the X resources was sufficient for Emacs to figure out the rest
> > of the fontset on its own.
> 
> I see.  The font itself isn't too bad, but it has got an annoying ",."
> bug (shouldn't be too hard to fix, though).  What's worse: My system
> lacks bold and oblique variants. 8-(  Do you have them?

*Bold* yes, /oblique/ no.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

Re: Xft / anti-aliased font support?

[Stefan Monnier]

> I see.  The font itself isn't too bad, but it has got an annoying ",."
> bug (shouldn't be too hard to fix, though).  What's worse: My system
> lacks bold and oblique variants. 8-(  Do you have them?

I use -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
and it does come with bold and oblique.  It's significantly smaller
than 10x20 (it's 6x13 IIRC), which I find to be a great advantage since
I get to see many more lines of text at a time.


        Stefan

Re: Xft / anti-aliased font support?

[Bill White]

On Mon Aug 23 2004 at 16:59, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> said:

> I use -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-*-*-*-*-*-* and it
> does come with bold and oblique.  It's significantly smaller than
> 10x20 (it's 6x13 IIRC), which I find to be a great advantage since I
> get to see many more lines of text at a time.

The most readable font I've found over the years is
-B&H-LucidaTypewriter-Medium-R-Normal-Sans-12-120-75-75-M-70-ISO8859-1
I try other fonts that people recommend but I've always returned to
this one.  It has bold but not oblique afaict.

Here's a screenshot:
http://members.wri.com/billw/images/Screenshot.png

bw
-- 
Bill White . billw@mchsi.com . http://members.wri.com/billw

Re: Xft / anti-aliased font support?

[Kai Grossjohann]

Bill White <billw@mchsi.com> writes:

> On Mon Aug 23 2004 at 16:59, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> said:
>
>> I use -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-*-*-*-*-*-* and it
>> does come with bold and oblique.  It's significantly smaller than
>> 10x20 (it's 6x13 IIRC), which I find to be a great advantage since I
>> get to see many more lines of text at a time.
>
> The most readable font I've found over the years is
> -B&H-LucidaTypewriter-Medium-R-Normal-Sans-12-120-75-75-M-70-ISO8859-1
> I try other fonts that people recommend but I've always returned to
> this one.  It has bold but not oblique afaict.

May I also suggest the GNU Intlfonts package?  Especially for someone
who likes 10x20 (ie, large fonts), this font might be nice.

(Of course, you, Bill and Stefan, prefer smaller fonts, and the
smaller version of GNU Intlfonts is not that nice.  It lacks bold, for
a start.)

Kai

Re: Xft / anti-aliased font support?

[Stefan Monnier]

> Running GNU emacs 21.2.1 on a Linux RH 9 / Gnome 2.2 box. Is there Xft
> support for this release? For desktop consistency, I would like to run emacs
> w/ anti-aliased fonts. Thanks.

There was some preliminary work on Xft support in the Arch branch
christopher.gray@mail.mcgill.ca--archive-ubc/emacs--xft--0 located at
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~cmg/{archive} and
http://mirrors.sourcecontrol.net/christopher.gray@mail.mcgill.ca--archive-ubc

But AFAIK it hasn't seen much progress recently, tho I'd love to be
proven wrong.


        Stefan