From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: narrow-to-here-document Date: 27 Jun 2003 01:10:39 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20030625.143750.116352160.jet@gyve.org> <20030626.104533.35781860.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> Reply-To: dak@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1056718386 30222 80.91.224.249 (27 Jun 2003 12:53:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 12:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 27 14:53:04 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Vsio-0007qf-00 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:52:58 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Vsnp-0007oI-00 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:58:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Vsf6-0003ja-Jf for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:49:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19VsZW-0002AW-2d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:43:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19VsWK-0001Dh-O0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:40:06 -0400 Original-Received: from m7.wifi.enstb.org ([193.50.97.168] helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19VsUw-0000bl-El; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:38:38 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5QNB0e0016446; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 01:11:40 +0200 Original-Received: (from dak@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h5QNAds1016442; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 01:10:39 +0200 Original-To: Tak Ota In-Reply-To: <20030626.104533.35781860.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> Original-Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-cc: jet@gyve.org Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: miles@lsi.nec.co.jp Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15300 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15300 Tak Ota writes: > 26 Jun 2003 16:19:57 +0900: Miles Bader wrote: > > > Richard Stallman writes: > > > This suggests we should use some other more general term instead. > > > How about "literal"? Any other suggestions? > > > > > > (defun make-indirect-buffer-for-hdoc (&optional change-major-mode)... > > > > > > I suggest the name edit-literal for that function. > > > We should not rigidly put all relevant entities into the function name. > > > > I find the name `literal' not clear for the opposite reason -- it seems > > too broad, and literal seems like a work that might have many other > > potential meanings. Since the crucial point is that it's a literal field > > embedded in a buffer, how about something like `edit-embedded-literal' or > > `edit-literal-field'? > > It is a bit pity loosing the name 'here document' since its use is so > popular that any other naming would be an indirect description of > 'here document'. But "here" is a particularly bad keyword for apropos searches. I'd rather recommend something like "embedded", in particularly since "here documents" are only a small part of the equation. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum