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From: David.Kastrup@t-online.de (David Kastrup)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Gud lord!
Date: 10 Jun 2003 14:54:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x57k7uccu8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E19Pi8M-0003Y7-2T@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     > If we are going to discuss what version control system to use,
>     > let's not do it under the rubric of "open source".
> 
>     My use of "open source" is no "rubric" associated with any particular
>     group.
> 
> The term "open source" is the name of a movement that was formed in
> 1998 to reject the free software movement's ideals.

In my opinion, not so much reject as downplay them, in order to
sucker^W convince people to develop free software that wouldn't think
of doing so `merely' for the sake of freedom.

I'd consider some of the capitalization achieved for free software
companies (like RedHat that acquired Cygnus and thus keeps GCC going
financially) to be due to the "Open Software" hype at that time.

> Many open source supporters tell people we are part of the open
> source movement.  We are trying to show people that is not so.

We profit in some ways from it.  Of course, there is also backlash
when business finds itself having problems from exalted expectations.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-10 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-07 15:37 Gud lord! Nick Roberts
2003-06-07 16:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-07 16:43   ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-07 16:47     ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-07 21:05     ` Miles Bader
2003-06-07 22:07       ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-07 22:35         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-08  0:01           ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-08  0:19             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-11 13:36             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-06-11 14:04               ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-12 21:15                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-06-12 22:37                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-11 14:32               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-12  1:43                 ` Miles Bader
2003-06-12 15:30                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-12 15:54                     ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-07 23:47         ` Miles Bader
     [not found]           ` <1055032089.30724.114.camel@lan1>
2003-06-08  2:02             ` Miles Bader
2003-06-08  4:40               ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-12 17:49                 ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-06-08  2:19             ` Miles Bader
2003-06-07 22:59       ` yet another todo editing system Joe Corneli
2003-06-08  7:51         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2003-06-08  8:52           ` Joe Corneli
2003-06-08 10:37             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2003-06-08 12:32               ` Joe Corneli
2003-06-08 20:05                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-09  7:29                   ` Joe Corneli
2003-06-09  7:34                     ` Miles Bader
2003-06-09  8:01                       ` Joe Corneli
2003-06-09  8:16                         ` Miles Bader
2003-06-09  9:27                     ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-09 10:54                       ` Joe Corneli
2003-06-09 11:41                     ` Alex Schroeder
2003-06-09 19:43                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2003-06-08 12:48             ` Alex Schroeder
2003-06-09  0:21         ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-09 10:05           ` Joe Corneli
2003-06-09 10:29             ` Joe Corneli
2003-06-15 15:59             ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-16  1:44               ` Joe Corneli
2003-06-16 17:57                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-09  0:21     ` Gud lord! Richard Stallman
2003-06-09  1:23       ` Jonathan Walther
2003-06-09 23:00         ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-10  1:28           ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-10  1:53             ` Jonathan Walther
2003-06-11  0:24             ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-09 14:32       ` Robert Anderson
2003-06-10 12:21         ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-10 12:54           ` David Kastrup [this message]
2003-06-10 17:10             ` Jonathan Walther
2003-06-11  8:27             ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-09  7:51   ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-09  8:11     ` Miles Bader
2003-06-09  8:32       ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-09  8:42         ` Miles Bader
2003-06-09  8:56           ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-09 13:37         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-09 14:07           ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-11 13:00             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-06-11 13:53               ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-09  0:21 ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-09  7:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-06-09 19:29   ` Not arch (was Re: Gud lord!) Nick Roberts

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