From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-h and TUTORIAL Date: 28 Jul 2004 18:09:21 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040726.064811.41627346.wl@gnu.org> <877jsps2sr.fsf@wesley.springies.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1091032255 1908 80.91.224.253 (28 Jul 2004 16:30:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Shutko , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 28 18:30:39 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bpqzx-0000oF-00 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:09:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpr36-0005wW-12 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:13:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpr2y-0005vZ-0R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:12:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpr2x-0005vN-IC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:12:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpr2x-0005vK-Fb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:12:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bpqzi-0008Og-T9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:09:30 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bpqzb-0005IF-EH; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:09:24 -0400 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:26058 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:26058 Richard Stallman writes: > C-h T can show up in the C-h C-h menu, advertising the existence of > language-specific tutorials. C-u C-h t is less obvious. > > I see. However, perhaps we should just make C-h t > always ask for which language. This would help non-English-speakers > even more, while the inconvenience to English-speakers would be > small (since regular users don't frequently run the tutorial). > Does anyone see a difficulty with this idea? That the user has not yet learnt at this point of time how to select an item from a list in the command line? However, I don't think that the tutorial has anything to say about that, so it is probably pretty much the same whether the user gets baffled with it before or after perusing the tutorial. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum