From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: file-name-shadow-mode Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:10:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <200503180435.j2I4Z2R18621@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87is3p5zp2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <200503191521.j2JFL8901509@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87r7ibziw6.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <200503200230.j2K2UvS03067@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200503201730.j2KHU7Z05536@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111342286 12458 80.91.229.2 (20 Mar 2005 18:11:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rms@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 19:11:25 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD4sy-0000ok-Cg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:10:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD59u-0007AO-F9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:28:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DD59h-00078v-Hm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:28:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DD59e-000779-9p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD59d-00076B-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DD4tB-0004oL-Sc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:11:01 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DD4t5-0006sA-6h; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:10:55 -0500 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200503201730.j2KHU7Z05536@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:30:07 -0600 (CST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34835 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34835 Luc Teirlinck writes: > Miles Bader wrote: > > A flaw whose only effect is to make the prompt slightly less clear > that it could be? > > A flaw that might give people the false impression that `$' after / > has the same effect as / or ~ after /. > > I expect that the > traditional "double slash" behavior of Emacs filename input -- which > is what rfn-eshadow fixes -- confuses far, _far_, more people. > > I do not understand. It confuses people who want to use empty file > or directory names? I doudt that is going to work anyway. Posix specifies that multiple slashes are the same as single slashes in Shells and system calls. So Emacs' behavior is surprising, though useful. Luc, you have recently acquired a tendency to veto everything on minor technicalities without weighing the advantages against them. While it certainly is always worthwhile to aim for the best possible solution, foregoing any improvement because it is not yet absolutely perfect is contraproductive. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum