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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>
Subject: Re: follow-link in grep buffer
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 03:50:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x54qg0dog0.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ll9cgioz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:28:10 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> I have added a new option mouse-1-click-in-non-selected-windows
>> that controls whether mouse-1 click in non-selected windows
>> will follow links.  Default is t.
>
> I think it should be purely and simply removed.
> It addresses the "click to focus window" problem but nobody ever complained
> about it (contrary to the problem of "click to focus frame" which is still
> open).

But that's what the x-mouse-click-focus-ignore-position variable is
for.  And we also have focus-follows-mouse to have Emacs be able to do
what it takes to give a frame focus.

Anyway, I am complete against automatisms that get things right 70% of
all the time immediately, with the user being unable to predict the
behavior 90% of the time, so that he needs to check every time he uses
the feature what actually happened.  If there is a braindead
consistent rule that gets things right even only 40% of the time, but
does not require switching on the brain or crosschecking for
correcting the thing efficiently about 60% of the time, this is
preferable in my book.

If I am talking to a person, I don't save time if he tries completing
my sentences for me.  And similar rules hold with computers, unless we
are talking about seriously disabled users for which any correcting
action takes lots of time.  Only in that setting make complicated
second-guessing rules any sense.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-26  2:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-21 21:08 follow-link in grep buffer Nick Roberts
2005-02-21 21:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-21 22:48   ` Nick Roberts
2005-02-22  0:08     ` Drew Adams
2005-02-22  9:48       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-22 13:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-22 14:24           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-22 14:25           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-22 17:33         ` Drew Adams
2005-02-22  0:48     ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-21 21:45 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-21 22:20   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-21 22:36     ` Nick Roberts
2005-02-21 22:46     ` David Kastrup
2005-02-21 23:00       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-21 23:05       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-21 23:42         ` David Kastrup
2005-02-22  0:00           ` Drew Adams
2005-02-21 23:07       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-22  0:44       ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-22  1:26         ` David Kastrup
2005-02-21 23:06     ` Drew Adams
2005-02-21 21:45 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-21 21:46 ` David Kastrup
2005-02-21 22:46   ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-21 23:22     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-22 18:11 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-25  6:51   ` Nick Roberts
2005-02-25  9:46     ` David Kastrup
2005-02-25 11:12       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-25 12:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-25 13:25           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-25 13:40             ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-25 14:20             ` Andreas Schwab
2005-02-25 13:37           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-25 14:10             ` David Kastrup
2005-02-26 13:53               ` Reiner Steib
2005-02-27  0:32               ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-25 16:33             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-25 16:47               ` David Kastrup
2005-02-25 16:59                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-25 23:05                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-25 16:37             ` Drew Adams
2005-02-25 18:09               ` David Kastrup
2005-02-25 19:44                 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-25 20:07                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-25 20:32                     ` David Kastrup
2005-02-25 20:53                     ` Drew Adams
2005-02-25 20:27                   ` David Kastrup
2005-02-25 21:24                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-25 23:34                     ` Drew Adams
2005-02-26  0:44                       ` David Kastrup
2005-02-26  1:18                         ` Drew Adams
2005-02-25 23:35         ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-26  2:28           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-26  2:50             ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-02-26  3:32               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-26 22:24             ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-27  2:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-27  8:26                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-27 21:46                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-27 22:09                     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-28  1:03                     ` Nick Roberts
2005-02-25 22:53       ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-26  0:16         ` David Kastrup
2005-02-26 22:44           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-25 22:52     ` Richard Stallman

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