From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tramp with global-auto-revert-mode.
Date: 15 May 2004 01:26:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x53c62zj33.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <863c62kai6.fsf@slowfox.dyndns.org>
Kai Grossjohann <kai.grossjohann@gmx.net> writes:
> storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:
>
> > How does it know where the output from the previous operation ends
> > (or have arrived at all), i.e. how does it know when the output to its
> > own command starts?
>
> I think that David is suggesting that the timer does not start its
> own command until the command-in-process is finished. So it goes
> like this:
>
> - User invokes Tramp in some manner.
>
> - Tramp sends a command to the remote host and enters a loop calling
> accept-process-output until the command is complete. (Tramp knows
> to look for a shell prompt to see that the command is complete.)
>
> - This loop is interrupted by a timer. The timer sees that such a
> loop is in progress already.
>
> - The timer enters its own accept-process-output loop, fetching
> output from the unknown command until the command completes (shell
> prompt arrives). It stashes the output away someplace safe.
>
> - Now the timer is free to do its own thing: it sends a command to
> the remote end, uses the accept-process-output loop to fetch the
> result, is happy.
>
> - Just before returning, the timer fetches the output from the safe
> place and inserts it into the connection buffer. Then the timer
> sends a no-op command to the remote end (but does *not* invoke
> accept-process-output) and returns.
>
> - This is the point in time where the "master" Emacs process gets to
> do something. It's still inside accept-process-output. The no-op
> command sent by the timer produces output (a shell prompt) which
> the now-awakened accept-process-output is happy to receive, and it
> wakes up.
Uh, much too complicated. accept-process-output does _not_ read any
process-output. It just puts a process to sleep until something has
been processed. Since it is not processing the output itself (but
relies on a filter function or the default buffer insertion to do so),
we don't need any do-nothing commands or whatsoever. When output
arrives, the currently active filter function will be called with it
and _all_ accept-process-output calling threads will get woken up
again. So they will need to check whether their respective work has
already been done or aborted by the filter routine.
> I hope I got that right.
Too complicated, I guess.
> It seems rather fragile to me.
Same here. The filter routine just should just mark the last command
sent to the remote shell as finished, and then see whether any
job/command is still pending. If yes, it sends it.
Every accept-process-output checks whether its job is finished, in
which case it returns, has been dequeued by force (closed connection
whatever) in which case a signal is probably thrown, or is either
still in queue or currently in progress. In which case
accept-process-output is called again.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-12 22:54 Tramp with global-auto-revert-mode Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-12 23:26 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-13 23:11 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-13 23:24 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-13 23:46 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 0:08 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 1:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 1:32 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 2:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 2:53 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 3:08 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 4:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 4:45 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 5:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 19:13 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 21:02 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-14 5:01 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 23:00 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-15 0:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 1:39 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 18:34 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-15 20:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 23:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-16 0:41 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-16 13:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-17 11:04 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-17 14:20 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-16 5:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-16 18:11 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-16 18:32 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-16 20:04 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-16 22:41 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-17 5:21 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-17 12:45 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-17 15:03 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-17 15:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-18 16:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-18 17:10 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-21 23:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-22 1:08 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-22 11:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-23 17:21 ` Michael Albinus
2004-05-17 6:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-15 2:50 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 13:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-15 13:34 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 16:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-15 17:49 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 13:51 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-15 3:23 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-15 18:02 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 21:02 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-14 2:31 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 5:32 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 11:36 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-14 12:06 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-14 17:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 17:54 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-14 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 19:08 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 19:26 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-14 20:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 21:00 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-14 21:19 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 21:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 22:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 23:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-15 18:33 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-14 22:11 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-14 22:57 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 22:47 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 23:14 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-14 23:38 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 22:50 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 23:00 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 20:40 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-14 23:26 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2004-05-15 16:19 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-15 17:01 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-15 17:26 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-15 18:18 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-16 14:11 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-15 18:33 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-16 14:13 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-17 1:14 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-17 22:58 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-18 3:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 20:32 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-14 21:35 ` Michael Albinus
2004-05-15 16:22 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-14 20:29 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-14 21:02 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-14 0:54 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-14 2:13 ` Luc Teirlinck
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