From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC-SVN problem Date: 09 May 2004 21:11:15 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040508013158.GB7312@fornax.collapsar.net> <878yg4yppi.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <20040508022659.GC7312@fornax.collapsar.net> <87d65exxnl.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084130052 22793 80.91.224.253 (9 May 2004 19:14:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 19:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun May 09 21:14:08 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BMtkW-00072G-00 for ; Sun, 09 May 2004 21:14:08 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BMtkW-0002JE-00 for ; Sun, 09 May 2004 21:14:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BMtjr-0006P1-Ur for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 15:13:27 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BMtjJ-0005N3-MO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 15:12:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BMtiO-0003vl-At for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 15:12:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BMths-0003Gu-1N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 15:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BMthl-0002x3-4i; Sun, 09 May 2004 15:11:17 -0400 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22989 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22989 David Kastrup writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > > > So, I'd like to fix this in vc-svn.el, in the simplest way: by adding > > (require 'cl) so that 'list*' is available. > > > > Please don't do that. It's not acceptable for any package in Emacs to > > do that. The CL functions are not standard parts of the Emacs Lisp > > language, and the user may have defined the same names in some other > > way. > > Usually > (eval-when-compile '(require 'cl)) > > should be sufficient, and it is what is recommended for that > functionality in the Elisp manual. Ok, I goofed. Spurious quoting. Here is the original passage from the manual: * Please don't require the `cl' package of Common Lisp extensions at run time. Use of this package is optional, and it is not part of the standard Emacs namespace. If your package loads `cl' at run time, that could cause name clashes for users who don't use that package. However, there is no problem with using the `cl' package at compile time, for the sake of macros. You do that like this: (eval-when-compile (require 'cl)) -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum