From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Piet van Oostrum Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? Date: 06 May 2003 15:49:00 +0200 Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <39d9c156.0305042200.1639a252@posting.google.com> <39d9c156.0305051416.711b6cca@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052234976 24846 80.91.224.249 (6 May 2003 15:29:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 15:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 06 17:29:35 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19D4Jt-00064U-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 17:25:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19D4K0-0001dv-02 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 May 2003 11:25:36 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!transit.news.xs4all.nl!131.211.28.48.MISMATCH!news.nl.linux.org!humbolt.nl.linux.org!phil.uu.nl!cs.uu.nl!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.mac.apps Original-Lines: 18 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: modena.cs.uu.nl Original-X-Trace: june.cs.uu.nl 1052234373 9644 131.211.80.35 (6 May 2003 15:19:33 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@cs.uu.nl Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 15:19:33 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112841 comp.sys.mac.apps:360651 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9335 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9335 I use Carbon Emacs on Mac OSX every day. In fact I use it more than any other program. I do almost all my text editing, email and Usenet news with Emacs. Also most HTML editing (occasionally I use Mozilla composer). I use it to control LaTeX to produce PDF documents. I use even dired mode as much as the Finder. I find it a versatile production tool. I have chosen to use Command as the Meta key, rather than Option. The main reason is that Option is used to produce non-ASCII characters like é, ü, ¤, so I don't want to loose that feature (although emacs has other ways to produce these characters, which I also use sometimes). Therefore the Command key is not free for me, so I don't use Cmd-C, Cmd-V, Cmd-Q etc. But as someone else has already indicated, you are free to use Option as Meta key and install the proper commands on the Command keys. I could give you the elisp commands in a few minutes if so desired. -- Piet van Oostrum URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: P.van.Oostrum@hccnet.nl