From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Piet van Oostrum Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never). Date: 08 Apr 2004 13:26:15 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87eks0654s.fsf@sno.mundell.ukfsn.org> <87n06bp4ng.fsf@sno.mundell.ukfsn.org> <8765cwkejr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200404071157.UAA25094@etlken.m17n.org> <200404071312.WAA25268@etlken.m17n.org> <87zn9nqras.fsf@emacswiki.org> <200404080203.LAA26847@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1081424363 26401 80.91.224.253 (8 Apr 2004 11:39:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 08 13:39:11 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BBXsF-0001dK-00 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 13:39:11 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BBXsE-0003JI-00 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 13:39:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BBXro-0007uQ-Bx for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 07:38:44 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BBXoD-0006xI-Mz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 07:35:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BBXjW-0005v3-1I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 07:30:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.211.81.146] (helo=ordesa.cs.uu.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BBXec-0004hx-2n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2004 07:25:06 -0400 Original-Received: from ordesa.cs.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ordesa.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF70141F0C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:26:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50.1 (via feedmail 8 I) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:21356 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:21356 >>>>> YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu (YM) wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 20:13:04 -0700, John Wiegley said: >> I would note too that I'm currently trying to identify a frequent >> crash that occurs on Mac OS/X (1-4 times daily). This is a new >> breakage, as earlier versions of Emacs were quite stable. YM> I guess some of them are related to repeated C-g. Is that right? I YM> think mac_check_for_quit_char (in macterm.c) needs some changes so YM> that it reflects the recent changes on kbd_buffer_store_event_hold (in YM> keyboard.c). The crashes on my machine are (almost) invariably tied to the following sequence: I am reading news/mail with gnus. I switch a couple of times between emacs and other applications I go back to gnus and continue reading or request new news with the 'g' command in *Groups*. Emacs hangs I try to get it out of the hang by hitting C-g once or several times. Crash. These crashes happen sometimes several times a day. It was my impression that it could be related to something like screen redrawing or redrawing the menu, that corrupts some memory or doesn't cooperate properly with GC. -- Piet van Oostrum URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: P.van.Oostrum@hccnet.nl