From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 10:28:15 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: <4EEB48B2.9090602@swipnet.se> <83liqc1tac.fsf@gnu.org> <83fwgk1atk.fsf@gnu.org> <4EEBE0DC.1050803@cs.ucla.edu> <4EEF5DF5.3030506@swipnet.se> <9E637EAB-A0C5-421B-9CCA-71C41442AF52@gmail.com> <6F793ECE-97CA-4CB9-9F7F-C141FE825E3F@swipnet.se> <61A2186E-2D7D-419B-8813-D8ACB733DE70@swipnet.se> <87ehvri8uz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1324949307 16744 80.91.229.12 (27 Dec 2011 01:28:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 01:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jan =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= , Carsten Mattner , Emacs developers To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 27 02:28:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RfLq2-0004hC-7P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2011 02:28:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49607 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RfLq1-0002rJ-Pl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:28:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59183) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RfLpz-0002r3-57 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:28:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RfLpx-0000DB-OL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:28:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]:52469) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RfLpx-0000Cz-2p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:28:17 -0500 Original-Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7400BC055D; Tue, 27 Dec 2011 10:28:15 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <87ehvri8uz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) X-Received-From: 133.82.132.2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146977 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 01:41:08 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" said: >> This can be fixed in Cocoa, but OSX 10.5 or later is required >> (AFAIK anyway). > This isn't a problem. Everybody else drops support for all but the > current and previous versions of Mac OS X. I don't see a good > reason why Emacs should bend over backward to support very old > versions of Mac OS X in a port that isn't even part of Emacs yet. The main reason why I'm keeping the support for older versions is to see whether the code has enough quality about tolerance of version difference, not depending on some specific behavior of particular implementation, in hope that this will also enhance compatibility with future versions. Of course, supporting too old versions can do harm than good, and actually I dropped Mac OS X 10.1 support on the transition from Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port to Emacs 23 Mac port. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp