From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:34:56 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: <4EEB48B2.9090602@swipnet.se> <83liqc1tac.fsf@gnu.org> <83fwgk1atk.fsf@gnu.org> <4EEBE0DC.1050803@cs.ucla.edu> <9E637EAB-A0C5-421B-9CCA-71C41442AF52@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1324514117 5072 80.91.229.12 (22 Dec 2011 00:35:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: chad , Rene@kyllingstad.com, Emacs developers To: Carsten Mattner Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 22 01:35:12 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RdWco-0006yd-9m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:35:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54712 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RdWcn-0008RF-7u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:35:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51140) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RdWci-0008On-4o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:35:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RdWcf-0000AT-Q2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:35:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]:55088) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RdWcf-0000AH-77 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:35:01 -0500 Original-Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32583C055D; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:34:56 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) X-Received-From: 133.82.132.2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146914 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:42:57 +0100, Carsten Mattner said: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:38 AM, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu > wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:33:03 +0100, Carsten Mattner >>>>>>> said: >>=20 >>> All of this prompted me to try harder to make the terminal emacs >>> session as usable (key bindings and other non flashy things) as >>> the graphical one. =A0I don't really use graphical features anyway >>> and have to --disable-FOO on Xorg. =A0Hey, nyan-mode works in >>> text-mode too :). >>=20 >> I'd recommend that for your important tasks. =A0But it would be >> appreciated if you could try the NS port for the tasks where crash >> is not so critical and send bug reports. > Sure. I'm surprised you endorse the NS port instead of the Mac or > Aqua ports :-). I didn't make the subject of the sentence explicit. At least bug reports for the NS port will be appreciated by someone. I occasionally test whether the reported bugs can also be reproduced with the Mac port. >> BTW, Terminal.app bundled with Lion is also linked with the Carbon >> framework, so if you really want to avoid Carbon as much as >> possible, then it would be better to use another terminal emulator. > I use iTerm2.app and xterm. FWIW, both iTerm2 and X11.app are linked with the Carbon framework, in case it still really matters for you. > The comparison doesn't hold as the OSX gui frontend of GNU Emacs is > not as well maintained and tested as the X frontend. Therefore it > makes a difference which future path is selected and limited > resources are used for. If Carbon is deprecated and we already have > a Cocoa frontend, enhancing that seems like a better plan to me. Did you read through the thread? The Mac port uses Cocoa AppKit for GUI. > Would you consider porting over missing bits into the --with-ns > frontend? No. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp