From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
To: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>
Cc: Adrian Robert <adrian.b.robert@gmail.com>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Changes 2009-07-15/16 in branch?
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:12:45 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <wlprbq3eiq.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A692E0A.9060108@gnu.org>
>>>>> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:44:10 +0800, Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> said:
> YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote:
>> I don't agree in this respect. Reverting the changes in the branch
>> will result in breaking compatibility TWICE:
>>
>> * On 23.1, between the NS port and the other platforms.
>> * On the NS port, between 23.1 and 23.2.
>>
>> We should provide some care compensating for these breakages.
>>
>> Note that I'm trying to find a constructive solution as we agree in
>> many other respects.
>>
> One solution is for 23.2 to provide an ns-compat.el library containing
> wrapper functions mapping the incompatible features
> to their platform-independent replacements and emitting warnings to
> inform the user that they should change to use the platform-independent
> equivalents. Then in 23.3 or 24.1 we could remove this library from
> Emacs and require users to get it from elsewhere if they still want to
> use the incompatible features.
Perhaps this can be applied to some of the features I removed. Let's
take a more closer look. There might be a possibility of different
solutions for different changes.
What I removed was:
1. Code for stippling. This is wrongly implemented as tiling, which
has been controversial whether or not to be included in the other
platforms, IIUC.
2. Code for interpreting incompatible color formats: RGBrrggbb,
ARGBaarrggbb, HSVhhssvv, AHSVaahhssvv, and CMYKccmmyykk. Besides
the format itself, support for the alpha-component in color is
not found in the other platforms but not inherently NS-specific.
3. Lisp primitive ns-set-alpha (nsfns.m), which sets the alpha
component of the given color to the specified value. As in the
argument for the alpha-component above, this is not inherently
NS-specific.
4. Lisp function ns-set-background-alpha (ns-win.el), which sets
alpha-component of frame background color. It is different from
the frame parameter `alpha' as Adrian explained. Again, this is
not inherently NS-specific.
YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp
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Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-23 11:22 Changes 2009-07-15/16 in branch? Adrian Robert
2009-07-23 12:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-23 15:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-24 0:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-24 1:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-24 1:27 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-24 1:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-24 2:20 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-24 3:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-24 3:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-24 3:44 ` Jason Rumney
2009-07-24 4:12 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu [this message]
2009-07-25 2:13 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-26 2:22 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-26 2:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-26 3:31 ` Miles Bader
2009-07-26 3:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-27 2:44 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-27 3:20 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-27 17:41 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-27 18:41 ` Clifford Wulfman
2009-07-28 4:37 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-28 13:18 ` Clifford Wulfman
2009-07-28 17:14 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-28 18:39 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-28 20:31 ` Ian Eure
2009-08-01 3:21 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-01 4:10 ` Ian Eure
2009-08-01 6:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-02 4:44 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-28 22:05 ` James Cloos
2009-07-29 20:13 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-29 22:05 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-30 7:53 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-30 14:01 ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-31 1:56 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-27 20:14 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-07-28 6:10 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
[not found] ` <EFBC3E4E-8739-4B16-8797-D9CA8BC290CD@gmail.com>
2009-07-28 20:33 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-07-28 0:53 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-28 17:14 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-24 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-29 0:22 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-29 1:12 ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-29 1:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-29 4:48 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-29 1:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-24 14:34 ` Adrian Robert
2009-07-25 1:15 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-25 4:55 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-25 16:59 ` Adrian Robert
2009-07-27 2:43 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-27 3:22 ` Adrian Robert
[not found] ` <E1MW1sm-0000lL-4K@fencepost.gnu.org>
2009-07-29 14:08 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-07-29 17:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-30 7:35 ` David Kastrup
2009-07-30 13:31 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-07-28 18:25 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-07-29 2:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-29 2:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-29 2:56 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-07-29 3:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-29 20:14 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-29 20:26 ` Chad Brown
2009-07-30 15:35 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-30 16:37 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-07-29 20:31 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-07-30 15:35 ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-30 16:22 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-08-01 3:21 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-01 7:45 ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-01 9:36 ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-02 4:43 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-02 7:06 ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-03 16:17 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-03 20:03 ` CHENG Gao
2009-07-29 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-27 0:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-07-27 3:12 ` Adrian Robert
2009-07-29 3:23 ` Sean O'Rourke
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