From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5721: Feature request: Function that returns absolute coordinates Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:25:32 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: <4B9E4521.9030909@yahoo.co.jp> <4C2C8C02.1010906@swipnet.se> <4C2D9009.60405@swipnet.se> <4C3DD633.7040004@swipnet.se> <4C3EA59E.40300@swipnet.se> <4C3EBDAD.1040800@swipnet.se> <4C3EC17E.6060101@swipnet.se> <4C3EC863.3030803@swipnet.se> <4C3ECE08.2040604@swipnet.se> <4C3ED669.1020607@swipnet.se> <4C3EE3D6.4060901@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279240239 25736 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2010 00:30:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5721@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 16 02:30:38 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZYp3-0003pn-Rx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:30:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51655 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZYp3-0001ct-0Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:30:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53087 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZYou-0001aP-Cy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:30:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZYos-0005XX-Io for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:30:28 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZYos-0005XT-HO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:30:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZYkc-0006ly-22; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:26:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5721 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5721-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5721.127923992926022 (code B ref 5721); Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:26:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5721) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2010 00:25:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZYk4-0006lf-7X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:25:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZYk0-0006lX-84 for 5721@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:25:25 -0400 Original-Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB151C0557; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:25:32 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <4C3EE3D6.4060901@swipnet.se> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 =?UTF-8?Q?(Shij=C5=8D)?= APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:26:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:38566 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:32:54 +0200, Jan Dj=E4rv = said: >>> Placing frames based on the position of another frame is the only >>> operation I can think of that uses coordinates from one frame and >>> applies it to another. >>=20 >> And you introduce yet another special function for that purpose? > I don't know what you mean by "yet another". I already purposed > functions for frame placement by unscaled coords. Why is that such > a burdon, but introducing a whole series of parallel functions like > pos-x-y et.al isn't? Neither the frame placement function nor window-(inside-)absolute-pixel-edges is necessary if we use the absolute unscaled coordinate system and introduce a function parallel to pos-x-y, which is anyway necessary for external programs' use. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp