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From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ATSUI support on Carbon Emacs
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:03:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wlk6gj1g55.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3CB0FB88-880A-4AC2-AA32-24216FEAA175@gmail.com>

>>>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:26:54 +0100, David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com> said:

> If you do set-frame-font with one of the installed fonts that show
> up in a completion buffer, you sometimes get an error:

I think this was fixed by yesterday's change.  Please test with the
latest one.

> -apple-helvetica ce-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-140-mac-centraleurroman
> can't be set, instead, it just uses the default Monaco font.

This also happens on X11.  Suppose we have

  -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso10646-1
and
  -sony-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-150-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1

but not for

  -sony-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-150-75-75-c-80-iso10646-1 .

Then, 

  emacs -q -fn -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso10646-1

followed by

  (set-frame-font "-sony-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-150-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1")

fails to set the second font.  If the first invocation is just "emacs
-q", then set-frame-font succeeds.

> Furthermore, it seems that the fonts don't exhibit the same spacing
> as in other applications. For example, a Helvetica Medium 12pt font
> is much narrower as for example in Apple Mail, where this is the
> default font (I think).  I wouldn't say that this looks bad, it's
> just not conforming to the standard.

I don't find much difference.  Of course, there are some differences
in integral/fractional metrics, without/with typographical features
such as kerning.  Is the difference more than those?

				     YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
				mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp

  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-12  5:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-01 11:28 ATSUI support on Carbon Emacs YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-10-06  8:20 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-10-06 10:55   ` Kim F. Storm
2005-10-07  8:07     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-10-07 14:02       ` Romain Francoise
2005-10-07 21:47         ` Kim F. Storm
2005-10-08  2:41           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-10-09 13:18           ` Romain Francoise
2005-10-11 14:26 ` David Reitter
2005-10-12  5:03   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu [this message]
2005-10-12  9:24     ` David Reitter
2005-10-13  8:17       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-11-12  5:52         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-10-20 12:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-21  1:10   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-10-21  9:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-21  9:58       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-10-21 14:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-24  1:05           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-10-24  9:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-25  0:00 ` Sébastien Kirche
2005-10-25  8:19   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-10-25 18:57     ` Sébastien Kirche
2005-10-25 21:00       ` Sébastien Kirche
2005-10-27  1:36         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-10-27 16:44           ` Sébastien Kirche
2005-10-28 10:35             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2005-10-29  1:11               ` Sébastien Kirche
2006-03-12  8:52 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2006-04-26  9:13   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2006-04-26  9:50     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2006-05-01  1:34     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu

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