From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CVS HEAD fails to build on OSX 10.4 (macterm.c broken?) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 08:50:36 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: <86k5re4blv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <200708291531.l7TFVnlD010335@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <86fy224aah.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <86bqcq4a4q.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <200708291604.l7TG4atk011108@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <867ine492x.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <200708291628.l7TGSvM6011975@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188604251 17916 80.91.229.12 (31 Aug 2007 23:50:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: merlyn@stonehenge.com, dann@ics.uci.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 01 01:50:50 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IRGGG-0006B3-8I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:50:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IRGGF-0003WG-MP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:50:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IRGGD-0003VK-5J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:50:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IRGGA-0003Ss-UQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:50:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IRGGA-0003Sj-Rk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:50:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IRGG6-0001AW-Fq; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:50:38 -0400 Original-Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FB62C45; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 08:50:36 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/23.0.50 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-Detected-Kernel: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:77515 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:21:11 -0400, Richard Stallman said: >> The simplest fix is to convert those macros to defuns, since >> efficiency is not important here. >> They could also be defsubsts, but getting the value of them would >> entail such a `require' as caused trouble already. > Sorry, I don't think that working around the bootstrap issue in this > way is not a good thing to do now. > I do not follow you. Do you see any reason why my patch to url.el > should not be installed? The original problem that Emacs doesn't bootstrap with Carbon was introduced by multi-tty because it changed lisp/loadup.el to preload lisp/term/mac-win.el. So I thought the first thing to do is to clarify this preloading is really necessary or the right thing rather than making a workaround at the url package side. Anyway, it seems that Stefan has already installed another change using defstruct. Someone who is really familiar with multi-tty should explain why preloading lisp/term/*-win.el was necessary for multi-tty. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp