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From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
To: 5721@debbugs.gnu.org, "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Subject: bug#5721: Feature request: Function that returns	absolute	coordinates
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:10:16 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wlfx02eirb.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C2C8C02.1010906@swipnet.se> <wlzkzflfhj.wl%mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>

>>>>> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:37:22 +0200, Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> said:

> I added functions window-absolute-pixel-edges and
> window-inside-absolute-pixel-edges.  I tested on X and Nextstep
> (OSX), but they probably do the wrong thing on w32.  I don't have
> w32 available.

What do you think about the following point?

>>>>> On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:16:08 +0900, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> said:

> I'd rather suggest introducing some conversion functions between
> relative and absolute coordinate systems.  Newer versions of Mac OS
> X provides "Resolution Independence" that allows users to specify a
> scale factor:

>   http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/HiDPIOverview/HiDPIConcepts/HiDPIConcepts.html

> With the scale factor, 1 pixel in the relative coordinate system no
> longer always correspond to 1 pixel in the absolute one.  Thus one
> cannot determine the corresponding absolute coordinates only from
> `inside-left' and `inside-top'.

(Maybe "pixel" above should be "unit".)

One can argue that the new API can return enough information to deal
with the scale factor by computing width and height in both relative
and absolute coordinate systems.  But I guess many programmers just
tends to add some offsets for the conversion between these coordinate
systems.  This might cause rewrite of elisp programs when GTK+
supports resolution independence in future.

				     YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
				mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp





  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-02  2:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-15 14:33 bug#5721: Feature request: Function that returns absolute coordinates IRIE Shinsuke
2010-03-30 17:50 ` Jan Djärv
2010-05-31 10:28   ` IRIE Shinsuke
2010-06-01  1:16     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-02  2:10       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu [this message]
2010-07-02  7:06         ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-02  9:15           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-14 15:22             ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  0:17               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-15  6:07                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  6:49                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-15  7:50                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  7:59                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-15  8:06                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  8:18                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-15  8:35                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  8:44                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-15  8:59                                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  9:27                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-15  9:35                                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  9:38                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-15 10:32                                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16  0:25                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16  6:39                                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16  9:14                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16 12:20                                                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-15  9:57                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-15 10:56                                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16  0:35                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16  6:38                                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16  8:37                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16  8:49                                                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-16  8:58                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-16 12:19                                                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-17  0:30                                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17  5:32                                                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-17  8:37                                                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-17  8:42                                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-01 12:37 ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-01 16:52   ` bug#5721: Feature request: Function that returnsabsolute coordinates Drew Adams
2010-07-01 17:20     ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-01 17:27       ` Drew Adams
2010-07-01 18:26         ` Jan Djärv
2010-07-01 18:52           ` Drew Adams
2010-07-01 20:08           ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-01 22:05           ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]   ` <87r5jn148f.wl%irieshinsuke@yahoo.co.jp>
2010-07-01 18:14     ` bug#5721: Feature request: Function that returns absolute coordinates Jan Djärv
2010-07-02  0:33 ` MON KEY
2013-09-28 20:06 ` Andreas Politz
2013-09-29 10:26   ` martin rudalics
2013-09-29 15:41     ` Andreas Politz
2013-09-29 16:02       ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-29 16:05         ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-29 17:21           ` Andreas Politz
2013-09-29 18:09             ` Jan Djärv
2013-09-29 18:47             ` martin rudalics
2013-09-29 18:47         ` martin rudalics
2013-09-29 20:10           ` Jan Djärv
2013-10-03 17:25             ` Andreas Politz
2013-10-03 20:25               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-03 21:09                 ` Andreas Politz
2013-10-04  6:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-04  8:28                     ` Andreas Politz
2013-10-04  8:55                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-04 10:33                         ` Andreas Politz
2013-09-29 18:46       ` martin rudalics
2013-09-29 20:25         ` Andreas Politz
2013-09-29 15:59     ` Jan Djärv

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