From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19792: Emacs and Voiceover Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:03:23 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423559120 21202 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2015 09:05:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19792@debbugs.gnu.org To: Antonio Gervasoni Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 10 10:05:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YL6kp-0001wh-QJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:05:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38530 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL6kp-0000fa-9h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 04:05:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55276) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL6jm-0007BM-EA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 04:04:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL6ji-0003QJ-St for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 04:04:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47652) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL6ji-0003Q7-Ol for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 04:04:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YL6ji-0001VJ-2m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 04:04:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19792 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19792-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19792.14235590105740 (code B ref 19792); Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19792) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2015 09:03:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38892 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YL6jC-0001UV-A6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 04:03:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]:51233) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YL6j9-0001UK-3J for 19792@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 04:03:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fermat1.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (fermat [192.168.32.10]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06769C055D; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:03:23 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?UTF-8?Q?Shij=C5=8D?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:99234 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:39:52 -0500, Antonio Gervasoni said: > I have a blind student who would benefit a lot from using Emacs but, > unfortunately, it doesn't work for him because he's on a Mac and > Voiceover can't read information correctly from the Emacs window (I > have installed the "Emacs for Mac OS X" that can be downloaded from > here ). A blind friend who runs Emacs on > Linux has told me that Orca has the same problem and that emacspeak > is the only solution that worked for him. Emacs Mac port (*) has some experimental accessibility support on OS X, but I'm not sure how much it is practical about regular use with VoiceOver. *: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-01/msg01040.html YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp