From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 09:38:44 +0900 Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University Message-ID: References: <18457.37369.262079.668907@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <5jr6clncn8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87od7p22dw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200805021331.m42DVYVw016584@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200805021610.m42GAhkE001271@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200805040056.m440u3eS022727@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210034377 17682 80.91.229.12 (6 May 2008 00:39:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 00:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , Chong Yidong , Dan Nicolaescu , Nick Roberts , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 06 02:40:12 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JtBE3-0002VY-Sn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 May 2008 02:40:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44087 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JtBDM-0003Aj-3a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:39:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JtBCx-00030c-FM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:39:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JtBCv-0002ze-50 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59956 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JtBCu-0002zO-Up for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:39:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JtBCm-0006kA-FM; Mon, 05 May 2008 20:38:53 -0400 Original-Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4D82C40; Tue, 6 May 2008 09:38:44 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/23.0.50 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96551 Archived-At: >>>>> On Mon, 05 May 2008 01:48:44 -0400, Stefan Monnier said: >> Then that would be the solution to the problem that the X11 build >> does not bootstrap on Darwin. > Doesn't it? I have missed the corresponding discussion, sorry. Is > there some detailed info about it somewhere? This one. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-04/msg02165.html One of the messages in this thread also mentioned that: >>>>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:48:26 +0800, CHENG Gao said: > Is it planned to merge Cocoa port (emacs-app.sf.net) into the trunk > for this freeze? Since Carbon port is dead, if Cocoa not merged, > there will be no support of MacOSX 10.5 in trunk (IIRC trunk cannot > build with X on 10.5). >>>>> On Mon, 05 May 2008 01:48:44 -0400, Stefan Monnier said: > If delaying the load of x-win.el resolves this problem, then maybe > it's a good solution. It would be good to try and figure out what's > the root cause of the problem, tho, of course. >> It would also reduce the required STATIC_HEAP_SIZE in sheap.c for >> Cygwin. > Does preloading x-win.el make a large difference here? If so, does > anybody know why? I guess .el requires more resources in preloading than .elc. I think it's a good idea not to preload unnecessary .el at this stage. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp