From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joshua Goldberg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: (Slightly Off-Topic) Emacs-like Office App Date: 01 Nov 2002 13:14:37 -0500 Organization: Indiana University Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036174576 7963 80.91.224.249 (1 Nov 2002 18:16:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 187gL7-00023n-00 for ; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:16:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 187gKy-0003Yf-00; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 13:16:04 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.indiana.edu!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 31 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: thresher.cs.indiana.edu Original-X-Trace: rainier.uits.indiana.edu 1036174476 3190 129.79.246.162 (1 Nov 2002 18:14:36 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news-admin@indiana.edu Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:14:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.5 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:106659 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:3211 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:3211 Kevin Dziulko writes: > Target both software developers and casual office users? Good luck with > that. Mac OSX seems like a good example of this. A hood under which you can get to tweak powerfully (in ways developers are accustomed to and that work well) on a system that is well-enough designed that even the developers I know find they don't bother tweaking it nearly as much as they did with unix. > One big super app that does everything? I think MS Word attempts > that (has word processing, drawing, desktop publishing, embedded > spreadsheets, modes(document templates), extendable with programming > ...). The result: enormous, slow, unstable, and all the other > reasons why people hate microsoft apps. If you want an app that > performs well, modularity is the key. Many small programs with a > narrower scope would be easier to create, upkeep, and execute with > high performace. Good points. I do think a good word-processor can exist, though, that both programmers and grandpa would be happy with. -Josh (I tweak emacs a lot and love to, but I can certainly imagine having software that doesn't make me feel like I need to. I should also admit that I've never owned or made very heavy use of a Mac--usually I'm on unix at work. If I bought a computer though it'd probably be Mac.)