From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What's an even easier explanation how to setup gnus ... Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:35:07 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <5i61va9u7p.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqmzjvly.fsf@gmail.com> <87r4d6x6dv.fsf@motoko.kusanagi> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378217563 3204 80.91.229.3 (3 Sep 2013 14:12:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 14:12:43 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 03 16:12:45 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VGrLZ-000629-G9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 16:12:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45591 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGq0L-0005Ds-D4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:46:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGppQ-0000LV-Tv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:35:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGppK-0006xZ-BZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:35:28 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59362) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGppK-0006xH-4r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:35:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VGppG-0002by-Lh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:35:18 +0200 Original-Received: from g224135091.adsl.alicedsl.de ([92.224.135.91]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:35:18 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by g224135091.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:35:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: g224135091.adsl.alicedsl.de Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yALWUaUAbaZt4y78uf8mDwbeygk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93217 Archived-At: wgreenhouse@riseup.net (W. Greenhouse) writes: > Thorsten Jolitz writes: > >> Please don't feel compelled, I don't think that thread was meant so >> seriously (including my post). But if you want to expose your >> grandparents to the world of computers for the very first time, and you >> love them more than you love RMS, maybe you should consider my anecdotal >> evidence ... > > My grandmother (and presumably many people's grandparents) used > computers for work, and they were command-line based with monochrome > displays. Why assume that touchscreen GUIs are inherently intuitive? > (Hint: the fact that they don't come with manuals is not evidence of this). > To even begin to suggest its as easy for the majority to manipulate the command line as it is to use a well designed GUI front end is somewhat silly. Regardless of what your Grandmother may or may not have done : the idea they might understand elisp and the gnus way is a little shortsighted and intransigent ;) -- Sent using Emacs/Gnus from home ...