From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andy Moreton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27445: 26.0.50; Insufficient documentation for pinentry.el Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:55:20 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87vano7ihu.fsf@drachen> <878tfy15lw.fsf@web.de> <83vaiz63f3.fsf@gnu.org> <83zi7jgbka.fsf@gnu.org> <87h8tqg30t.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1511200630 7623 195.159.176.226 (20 Nov 2017 17:57:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:57:10 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (windows-nt) To: 27445@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 20 18:57:06 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eGqJd-0001hZ-EF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 20 Nov 2017 12:55:49 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eGqI9-0004hq-R5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:55:33 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 31 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:hrkHkPpa0revf5CImq7FOk2Ge2o= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:140147 Archived-At: On Sun 19 Nov 2017, Daiki Ueno wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> Ping! > > Sorry for not responding to it earlier. > >>> Daiki, could you please add some user-level documentation about this >>> package? > > I would rather not document it, because the package should be > transparent to user. If it doesn't work, you are using either GnuPG 2.0 > or some stupid distro package neglecting upstream's default (only > Debian, as far as I know). How on earth is a user meant to diagnose a non-working setup without adequate documentation ? > Fortunately, GnuPG 2.0 will be unsupported in the next month. After > that we should be able to obsolete or remove the package. Just because upstream remove support for something does not mean that all downstream distros or users systems are fully up to date. While it is sensible to encourage users to use the latest package version and to install security fixes, there will be many people with systems using older package versions for some time. Those users will need documentation to guide them. AndyM