From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Moreton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:58:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87mw01uj06.fsf@gmail.com> <877fr5t282.fsf@gnu.org> <557F2ECC.40201@cs.ucla.edu> <87pp4wjh51.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434459580 29056 80.91.229.3 (16 Jun 2015 12:59:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:59:40 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 16 14:59:34 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4qSj-0000hW-Cd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:59:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40077 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4qSi-0001iz-Vq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:59:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52326) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4qRv-0000fC-5z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:58:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4qRr-00038V-3m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:58:43 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59916) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4qRq-00038J-Tv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:58:39 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4qRo-0008Nw-9E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:58:36 +0200 Original-Received: from uk.solarflare.com ([193.34.186.16]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:58:36 +0200 Original-Received: from andrewjmoreton by uk.solarflare.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:58:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 44 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: uk.solarflare.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6k1eBeTAMwIqjB9/RekGi1pAKPM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187211 Archived-At: On Tue 16 Jun 2015, Tassilo Horn wrote: > Paul Eggert writes: > >>> But we're still referring to a function argument `foo' as FOO in >>> docstrings, no? >> >> Yes, there's no proposal to change that. > > I was just wondering because the quoted text said to quote lisp symbols > with single quotes, and parameters are lisp symbols, too, or arent they? > >>> is there something better for inserting single quotes as using >>> >>> M-x insert-char LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK RET >>> M-x insert-char RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK RET >> >> I typically use Electric Quote mode, and type ` and ' which is pretty >> easy. > > I just did `M-x electric-quote-mode RET' and `electric-quote-paragraph' > is t, and still nothing is rewritten. Ah, it seems it's only active for > modes deriving from text-mode which message-mode apparently doesn't > do... > >> You can also type "C-x 8 [" and "C-x 8 ]". > > That works. > >> If your Alt key works you can also type "A-[" and "A-]". > > What does "Alt key works" mean? Alt is Meta here, so typing Alt-AltGr-( > says M-[ is undefined. If you are using emacs on Windows, you need to check the values of: w32-alt-is-meta w32-lwindow-modifier w32-rwindow-modifier w32-apps-modifier w32-scroll-lock-modifier The default mapping puts the ALT modifier on the Apps key. AndyM