From: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, bazaar@lists.canonical.com
Subject: Re: Emacs Bazaar repository
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:58:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <vpqskytvd8q.fsf@bauges.imag.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ejae96t4.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Thu\, 13 Mar 2008 12\:55\:51 +0100")
David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
> Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:
>
>> My first impression is that bzr is slow, so slow that it is completely
>> unusable. How can it come that a simple bzr log takes more than a
>> minute to even start? Even cvs log is instantaneous in comparison,
>> although it has to request the log from the server.
>
> I find this surprising: "git log" is pretty much instantaneous, and git
> recalculates a code piece's history in the process (renaming and copying
> is not tracked by git, but calculated on the fly when you ask for log
> output).
Actually the full "git log" can be long, but in practice, "git log"
seems _always_ instantaneous, since:
* git log pipes itself to less by default, so you get something stable
in your terminal as soon as "git log" has outputed a few lines.
* git log can show the output as it finds it. It can show the output
for HEAD immediately, then the ancestors of HEAD, then the
grandparents, ...
As opposed to that, bzr has to get a global view of history at least
to get the revision numbers (there was some plans caching this
information, I don't know what's the status).
That said, the time for bzr log to start should clearly not be _that_
long. I suspect it's done on a light checkout (therefore needing
network access), which git can't do at all for example.
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2008-03-12 23:41 Emacs Bazaar repository Jason Earl
2008-03-13 1:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13 1:52 ` dhruva
2008-03-13 2:26 ` Bastien
2008-03-13 2:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13 3:12 ` dhruva
2008-03-13 4:06 ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-13 4:11 ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-29 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-13 15:30 ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-13 15:58 ` dhruva
2008-03-13 16:50 ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13 20:18 ` How to spell "commit" [was: bikeshedding bzr (or similar) :] Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-13 4:09 ` Emacs Bazaar repository Karl Fogel
2008-03-13 4:15 ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-13 4:30 ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14 1:11 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14 1:51 ` Jason Earl
2008-03-14 5:10 ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-13 9:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-13 22:13 ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14 10:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 10:36 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-13 5:08 ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13 10:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-13 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13 4:19 ` Eric Hanchrow
2008-03-13 5:20 ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13 8:04 ` dhruva
2008-03-13 9:04 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13 9:41 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-13 12:08 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13 23:46 ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14 2:52 ` dhruva
2008-03-14 3:00 ` Jason Earl
2008-03-14 3:03 ` Martin Pool
2008-03-14 5:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-14 7:03 ` Martin Pool
2008-03-15 4:44 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-14 10:30 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 15:02 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-03-13 11:20 ` James Westby
2008-03-13 16:37 ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13 7:43 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13 8:49 ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13 9:07 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13 13:11 ` Aaron Bentley
2008-03-13 11:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-13 11:55 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 9:58 ` Matthieu Moy [this message]
2008-03-14 10:42 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 12:24 ` Matthieu Moy
[not found] ` <8562053f49b38b1584b86e1e4d1ec6e6, vpqbq5htrwx.fsf@bauges.imag.fr>
2008-03-14 12:42 ` David Ingamells
2008-03-14 13:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-14 8:23 ` John Arbash Meinel
2008-03-14 13:32 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 13:39 ` James Westby
2008-03-14 14:13 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 14:30 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:37 ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-14 16:17 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 16:32 ` Daniel Mark Watkins
2008-03-14 15:15 ` David Allouche
2008-03-14 15:21 ` James Westby
2008-03-14 15:43 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 13:35 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 13:44 ` James Westby
2008-03-14 13:59 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 14:09 ` James Westby
2008-03-14 14:29 ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-15 0:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-15 10:30 ` James Westby
2008-03-15 12:30 ` James Westby
2008-03-14 23:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-17 10:41 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-17 12:39 ` Sergei Organov
2008-03-18 1:48 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-18 2:13 ` dhruva
2008-03-18 4:03 ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-18 5:00 ` dhruva
2008-03-18 5:40 ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-18 9:17 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-18 10:00 ` dhruva
2008-03-19 5:44 ` Bastien
2008-03-19 9:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-19 14:04 ` Bastien
2008-03-19 14:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-19 15:30 ` Bastien
2008-03-29 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-18 16:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 18:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-20 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-20 14:10 ` Jason Rumney
2008-03-20 15:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-20 20:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-21 12:51 ` dhruva
2008-03-29 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-18 19:31 ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-18 19:27 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-18 20:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-18 20:26 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-22 4:23 ` Michael Olson
2008-03-22 11:18 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-24 6:19 ` Michael Olson
2008-03-25 9:36 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-20 1:04 ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-18 20:58 ` Brian Cully
2008-03-18 21:13 ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-18 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 22:02 ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-19 1:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 23:18 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-18 23:46 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-19 0:13 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-19 0:17 ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-19 1:14 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-19 0:12 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-26 7:56 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-27 22:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-29 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-14 12:56 ` dhruva
2008-03-14 13:10 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-14 13:23 ` dhruva
2008-03-14 13:26 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:19 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 14:29 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-15 0:43 ` Jonathan Rockway
2008-03-15 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-15 15:06 ` dhruva
2008-03-15 0:44 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-17 10:43 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 22:26 ` Martin Geisler
2008-03-15 12:09 ` dhruva
2008-03-15 21:32 ` Martin Geisler
2008-03-25 21:46 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-03-19 10:50 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-03-14 13:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:24 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 14:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:46 ` Jelmer Vernooij
2008-03-14 15:15 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-15 0:49 ` Harald Meland
2008-03-14 18:04 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14 19:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 19:47 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 20:01 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-14 20:06 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 21:43 ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-15 0:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-13 20:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-14 10:23 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 3:56 ` Forest Bond
2008-03-14 10:32 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 11:28 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 22:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-14 23:49 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 4:52 ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14 6:21 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14 6:33 ` Alexander Belchenko
2008-03-14 7:16 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14 9:18 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-14 10:08 ` Matthew D. Fuller
2008-03-14 10:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-19 16:31 ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-14 10:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 10:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 11:30 ` Matt Nordhoff
2008-03-29 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-13 13:07 ` Andrea Russo
2008-03-14 9:16 ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-13 14:18 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 18:35 ` Jason Earl
2008-03-14 18:51 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 19:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 19:32 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 20:12 ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 18:31 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2008-03-16 18:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-16 19:53 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-17 15:00 ` Michael Haggerty
2008-03-17 16:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-16 21:47 ` Toshio Kuratomi
2008-03-18 15:43 ` Emacs repository benchmark: bzr and git Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 15:51 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-18 16:05 ` dhruva
2008-03-19 2:53 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27 1:32 ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-27 2:24 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-27 2:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-27 11:58 ` dhruva
2008-03-27 13:59 ` Vincent Ladeuil
2008-03-29 1:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-29 1:30 ` James Westby
2008-03-29 3:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-29 4:06 ` James Westby
2008-03-29 4:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-29 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29 4:34 ` David Cournapeau
2008-03-31 0:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29 9:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-29 9:58 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-29 10:13 ` dhruva
2008-03-29 10:26 ` David Kastrup
2008-03-31 0:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29 14:55 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2008-03-29 16:35 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-03-29 18:13 ` tomas
2008-03-29 21:05 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-30 5:49 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-30 5:49 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-30 6:25 ` Jonathan Rockway
2008-03-30 19:56 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-31 0:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-18 16:19 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-19 9:43 ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 16:02 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-18 16:33 ` dhruva
2008-03-18 18:41 ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-03-19 1:40 ` dhruva
2008-03-18 21:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-18 17:11 ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 17:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 18:20 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-18 16:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-18 19:19 ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 20:22 ` James Westby
2008-03-19 11:37 ` Emacs repository benchmark: bzr and git (rerun) Teemu Likonen
2008-03-19 12:17 ` James Westby
2008-03-19 22:39 ` Robert Collins
2008-03-19 16:41 ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-22 17:59 ` Emacs Bazaar repository Stefan Monnier
2008-03-22 19:59 ` Andreas Schwab
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