Debian and Emacs 24

Debian and Emacs 24

[Francesco Mazzoli]

Hi list,

I have a simple question that might lack a simple answer.

I use Debian wheezy, and I rely heavily on the packages on the emacs lisp that
is shipped with Debian in various packages.  Is there a way I can upgrade to
emacs24 while using the packaged elisp?  Getting the elisp packages from
ELPA/MELPA/Marmalade or similar is not that ideal since many (most?) of them are
not present.

Thanks,
Francesco

Re: Debian and Emacs 24

[Jude DaShiell]

Has anyone figured out how to install elpa, melpa, or marmallade on debian 
wheezy yet?


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Re: Debian and Emacs 24

[W. Greenhouse]

Hi Jude,

Jude DaShiell <jdashiel-8yF3sd9nqiuqbZlqUX0PMA@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Has anyone figured out how to install elpa, melpa, or marmallade on debian 
> wheezy yet?

Options:

1. Try http://emacswiki.org/emacs/ELPA#toc6 to configure packages if you
   wish to stay with the Emacs23 available in Wheezy, without either
   apt-pinning or adding outside repos.

2. Pin ahead to one of the Emacs24 packages for Sid (
   http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=emacs24
   ).

3. Try one of the Emacs24 packages from http://emacs.naquadah.org/.

Good luck!

Best,
Will

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Re: Debian and Emacs 24

[Richard Riley]

wgreenhouse@riseup.net (W. Greenhouse)
writes:

> Hi Jude,
>
> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> writes:
>
>> Has anyone figured out how to install elpa, melpa, or marmallade on debian 
>> wheezy yet?
>
> Options:
>
> 1. Try http://emacswiki.org/emacs/ELPA#toc6 to configure packages if you
>    wish to stay with the Emacs23 available in Wheezy, without either
>    apt-pinning or adding outside repos.
>
> 2. Pin ahead to one of the Emacs24 packages for Sid (
>    http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=emacs24
>    ).
>
> 3. Try one of the Emacs24 packages from http://emacs.naquadah.org/.

These work perfectly with Debian and ELPA too. I use them with ELPA and
my emacs configuration has become a LOT easier.

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Re: Debian and Emacs 24

[Bob Proulx]

Francesco Mazzoli wrote:
> I have a simple question that might lack a simple answer.
> 
> I use Debian wheezy, and I rely heavily on the packages on the emacs
> lisp that is shipped with Debian in various packages.  Is there a
> way I can upgrade to emacs24 while using the packaged elisp?
> Getting the elisp packages from ELPA/MELPA/Marmalade or similar is
> not that ideal since many (most?) of them are not present.

There is current discussion of this issue in the debian-backports
mailing list.  Ignore the first response which was due to a
misunderstanding of the question.  The rest is ongoing.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2013/04/threads.html#00010

If you must have the bleeding edge then perhaps Unstable is the better
track for you.  It is not without problems.  It is the bleeding edge
after all.  And it is hard to have a bleeding edge without spilling a
little blood.  The whole point of stable releases is to avoid that but
of course that means you don't get the daily newest between releases.

Bob

ERC scrolltobottom in Emacs 24 (Was: Debian and Emacs 24)

[Francesco Mazzoli]

In the end I installed emacs24 through the emacs-snapshot package, and things
seem to be fine: the debian packages work with the new emacs.

I have however a very annoying problem with ERC: I have enabled the
‘scrollbottom’ module enabled but the text ‘jumps’ to the middle of the frame
every time a new message arrived.  Did anybody record a behaviour like this, and
if yes, how do I fix it?

Thanks,
Francesco

Re: ERC scrolltobottom in Emacs 24

[Teemu Likonen]

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Francesco Mazzoli [2013-04-04 10:22:34 +0200] wrote:

> In the end I installed emacs24 through the emacs-snapshot package, and
> things seem to be fine: the debian packages work with the new emacs.
>
> I have however a very annoying problem with ERC: I have enabled the
> ‘scrollbottom’ module enabled but the text ‘jumps’ to the middle of
> the frame every time a new message arrived. Did anybody record a
> behaviour like this, and if yes, how do I fix it?

I think I saw something like that when I switched to Emacs 24. I do my
scrolling settings with the code below. It's likely what you'd want too.


    (add-hook 'erc-mode-hook 'my-erc-mode-hook)

    (defun my-erc-mode-hook ()
      (set (make-local-variable 'scroll-conservatively) 101)
      (set (make-local-variable 'scroll-step) 1))

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Re: ERC scrolltobottom in Emacs 24

[Francesco Mazzoli]

At Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:54:20 +0300,
Teemu Likonen wrote:
> 
> Francesco Mazzoli [2013-04-04 10:22:34 +0200] wrote:
> 
> > In the end I installed emacs24 through the emacs-snapshot package, and
> > things seem to be fine: the debian packages work with the new emacs.
> >
> > I have however a very annoying problem with ERC: I have enabled the
> > ‘scrollbottom’ module enabled but the text ‘jumps’ to the middle of
> > the frame every time a new message arrived. Did anybody record a
> > behaviour like this, and if yes, how do I fix it?
> 
> I think I saw something like that when I switched to Emacs 24. I do my
> scrolling settings with the code below. It's likely what you'd want too.
> 
> 
>     (add-hook 'erc-mode-hook 'my-erc-mode-hook)
> 
>     (defun my-erc-mode-hook ()
>       (set (make-local-variable 'scroll-conservatively) 101)
>       (set (make-local-variable 'scroll-step) 1))

Much better, thanks!

Francesco

Re: ERC scrolltobottom in Emacs 24

[Teemu Likonen]

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Francesco Mazzoli [2013-04-04 14:09:36 +0200] wrote:

> Teemu Likonen wrote:
>>     (add-hook 'erc-mode-hook 'my-erc-mode-hook)
>> 
>>     (defun my-erc-mode-hook ()
>>       (set (make-local-variable 'scroll-conservatively) 101)
>>       (set (make-local-variable 'scroll-step) 1))
>
> Much better, thanks!

Nice to hear. I forgot to tell that I don't use scrollbottom module at
all.

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ERC reconnect (Was: Debian and Emacs 24)

[Francesco Mazzoli]

Hi,

I have another ERC & emacs24 issue: the reconnect doesn’t seem to work anymore.
I have

    (setq erc-server-reconnect-timeout 10)

in my init file, is something else necessary?  I’m also connecting via ssl.

Francesco