From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Max Nikulin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package c-intro-and-ref -- was Re: Proposal: Include C Manual from RMS in Emacs git, and/or release Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 23:41:07 +0700 Message-ID: References: <87ser8c230.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86ser87rut.fsf@gnu.org> <86cyia4503.fsf@gnu.org> <87bjxsbc8h.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86a5db1vc6.fsf@gnu.org> <87v7vy2cho.fsf@posteo.net> <86a5d8lqol.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37527"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 08 19:51:13 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tKMN7-0009Wr-6X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 19:51:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKMMf-00075c-8G; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 13:50:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKKLR-0007uI-3F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 11:41:21 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKKLP-0002BD-LA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 11:41:20 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tKKLM-0004MU-I5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 17:41:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Content-Language: en-US, ru-RU In-Reply-To: <86a5d8lqol.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 26 X-Spam_score: 2.6 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 08 Dec 2024 13:50:40 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326203 Archived-At: On 06/12/2024 23:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Max Nikulin Fri, 6 Dec 2024 21:58:39 +0700 >> On 06/12/2024 01:47, Philip Kaludercic wrote: >>> It would also make sense to make the Emacs manuals available for easy >>> download, as distributions like Debian do not include these by default. >> >> >> has a link to emacs.info.gz, there is no need to download whole source >> tarball. A couple of issues: >> - this page does not contain "../" link to other manuals > > Why should it? It is common to have either breadcrumbs or "up" links for user convenience. Just the link to the project home page without may make discovery of e.g. Tramp manual harder. >> I still think that it is easier to install the emacs-common-non-dfsg >> package than to download info files from some other source. > > The fact that the Emacs manuals are available from the GNU > Documentation site doesn't prevent anyone from using other distros. > Each one should do it in the way that is the most convenient for them. > The important point is that the manuals are "available for easy > download" in more ways than one. I do not mind. My point is that there is no real problem with Debian. As an alternative, it is not necessary to extract info files from source tarball if newer version of docs is acceptable.