From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Max Nikulin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Texinfo reputation Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:56:02 +0700 Message-ID: References: <87ser8c230.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86zflglu3h.fsf@aarsen.me> <86iks47qun.fsf@gnu.org> <865xo4h9w7.fsf@aarsen.me> <867c8k7aig.fsf@gnu.org> <861pys6i8z.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmggioql.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36095"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 05 06:34:11 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ4V9-0009Ft-9Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2024 06:34:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ4UL-0001qK-E4; Thu, 05 Dec 2024 00:33:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ3uR-0004aH-Jt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2024 23:56:15 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ3uQ-00031i-0i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2024 23:56:15 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ3uL-0001zG-Sz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2024 05:56:09 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Content-Language: en-US, ru-RU In-Reply-To: <87wmggioql.fsf@web.de> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 23 X-Spam_score: 2.3 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 00:33:18 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326062 Archived-At: On 04/12/2024 01:51, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Max Nikulin writes: > I used to be annoyed by the standalone reader, but with > > info --usage > > it’s actually pretty good. Certainly it is more convenient, but a more universal link is still or available locally via: info '(coreutils) ls invocation' > It nowadays also gives a useful answer when > looking for a non-existing manual: > > info NOTEXISTING > info: No menu item 'NOTEXISTING' in node '(dir)Top' I prefer this behavior as well. It reminds me another recent thread however. "info git" renders the man page in my case. In the absence of apparent banner, it requires some cognitive efforts to recognize that the rendered document is not an info page. Citations in the following message gives a fair summary of that discussion debian-user. Re: help, man, etc. (was Re: Using terminal commands - corner cases) Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:40:31 +0100 > You even get very fast full-text search through the manuals. I do not mind, but the real annoyance for new users is that key bindings do not match e.g. "less" ones for next match. Mouse support in tkinfo makes its usage significantly more intuitive. > And: info --usage git does not give the invocation page — because that > node is missing in the manual. That’s not a problem of texinfo, but an > indication that something may be missing: > > Is there a linter for texinfo that remarks such problems? Perhaps it is possible to write TeX code that spits a warning/error at the end of the document when the "invocation" node is missed.