From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Differences between Elisp and Lisp Date: 29 Apr 2003 15:29:54 +0100 Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K. Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <7Vvra.15$aX1.3111@typhoon.nyu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1051628839 10548 80.91.224.249 (29 Apr 2003 15:07:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 29 17:07:15 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19AWfB-0002W0-00 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:05:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19AWfv-0000yE-02 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 11:05:43 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!nntp.theplanet.net!inewsm1.nntp.theplanet.net!zen.net.uk!130.88.203.18.MISMATCH!peernews.mcc.ac.uk!cs.man.ac.uk!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 37 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk Original-X-Trace: wapping.cs.man.ac.uk 1051626594 21864 130.88.198.228 (29 Apr 2003 14:29:54 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@wapping.cs.man.ac.uk Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:29:54 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.93 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112514 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9011 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9011 >>>>> "Marco" == Marco Antoniotti writes: Marco> Johan Bockgård wrote: >> From gnu.emacs.help, followup-to set to gnu.emacs.help >> >> "Daniel R. Anderson" writes: >> >> >> >On emacswiki.org there is a "wish list". Quite a few people want >> >emacs to be based on another version of LISP. Out of curiosity, >> >what is it that makes elisp inherently bad, or why would people >> >want it to be changed? Marco> I'll skip the first one. For the second I'd wager that Marco> people *know* that Common Lisp is the right answer and people Marco> would love to see RMS admit that he messed up royally by Marco> promoting Guile :) For me the issue is more simple I think. I would Emacs to be using a lisp which was not specific to emacs, as it would probably stop so much wheel reinvention. There is too much code in emacs, that was written for emacs, in my own estimation. I'd just be happy to have a more powerful lisp that's all. Should it be CL or scheme? From my perspective, I couldn't care that much for a simple reason. I learnt lisp because I use emacs, rather than the other way around. I only known elisp in detail. Which ever one emacs goes with, will be the one that I learn! Cheers Phil