From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Differences between Elisp and Lisp Date: 29 Apr 2003 13:23:36 +0100 Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K. Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1051621727 5821 80.91.224.249 (29 Apr 2003 13:08:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 13:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 29 15:08:44 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19AUqh-0001VV-00 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:08:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19AUoI-0000R4-07 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 09:06:14 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.esat.net!nntp.theplanet.net!inewsm1.nntp.theplanet.net!zen.net.uk!130.88.203.18.MISMATCH!peernews.mcc.ac.uk!cs.man.ac.uk!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 25 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk Original-X-Trace: wapping.cs.man.ac.uk 1051619016 21729 130.88.198.228 (29 Apr 2003 12:23:36 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@wapping.cs.man.ac.uk Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 12:23:36 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.93 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112499 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:8996 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:8996 >>>>> "os" == Oliver Scholz writes: os> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: [...] >> However, it has some peculiarities that many people find >> disconcerting. For instance -- all variables have dynamic scope, >> which is somewhat unusual these days. os> [...] os> AFAIK Miles Bader is working on a branch (“lexbind”) where he's os> implementing lexical scoping. But I have not found the time to os> check it out, yet, and I hope I don't spread misinformation. I os> hope that will get us closures, too. I thought that CL already implemented lexical binding? At least within a let form (or "lexical-let"). If emacs just went to using lexical binding in the large, I suspect that it would cause lots of problems with existing packages. I have used dynamic scoping to achieve ends in the past, which might be a bit nasty, but it does work! Cheers Phil