From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Software/HD ecology (was Re:...Bug in Emacs 21.3.50) Date: 11 Dec 2002 18:29:32 +0000 Organization: BIOSCI/MRC Human Genome Mapping Project Resource Centre Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <041220020952400758%ajanta@no.spam> <56cfb0e3.0212041458.5eab182a@posting.google.com> <061220020416350201%ajanta@no.spam> <84bs3xsyi8.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <071220021155280606%ajanta@no.spam> <5ld6obj8il.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <101220021125583826%ajanta@no.spam> <101220021416559254%ajanta@no.spam> <111220021101520860%ajanta@no.spam> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1039634869 11291 80.91.224.249 (11 Dec 2002 19:27:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18MCWH-0002vZ-00 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:27:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18MBcs-0006YN-05 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:30:30 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!lnewspeer00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!server1.netnews.ja.net!hgmp.mrc.ac.uk!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.text.tex,gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 27 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: bromine.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Original-X-Trace: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk 1039631374 3831 193.62.192.35 (11 Dec 2002 18:29:34 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@net.bio.net Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 18:29:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.93 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu comp.sys.mac.apps:348588 gnu.emacs.help:108005 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:4537 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:4537 >>>>> "Ajanta" == Ajanta writes: Ajanta> Phillip Lord wrote: >> Well this is a different issue. Clutter for me is a problem in >> user space... In space managed my the machine (like for instance >> a make file installed emacs), I couldn't care less about >> duplication, or clutter. Computers don't get confused by clutter. Ajanta> However, since computers are there for users, there is bound Ajanta> to be some overlap. One might want to know just what Ajanta> commands are there in one's various bin's, what they do, who Ajanta> put them there and why. In tricky situations the only way to Ajanta> understand a program better may be to actuallly browse its Ajanta> directories and files, so clutter there would hurt. Of course this is true. But there are some parts of my computer that I look at, and some that I don't. The internals of an installed emacs, I don't. Its much more important that the Makefile, or the autoconf script, or what ever, is uncluttered than the final file system is. If you have to put in a lot of stuff, removing the excess files, then you are trading one for the other. You win somethings, you loose others. Phil