From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-15?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: State of the art in Emacs outlining? Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:38:45 +0200 Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033315032 23219 127.0.0.1 (29 Sep 2002 15:57:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17vgRT-00062N-00 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:57:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17vgRi-0000Cs-00; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 11:57:26 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!nntp.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!213.73.101.75!eusc.inter.net!Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 29 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:DThGPw0VJH8tpuseWvP/ipu5an8= Original-Xref: nntp.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:105492 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:2037 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:2037 "Tom Davey" writes: > Is there a preferred elisp package (or combination) in use today for > Emacs outlining? I am a little confused by the several packages out > there -- outline.el, of course, and allout.el and folding.el and others > less known that promise improvements to outline.el -- and I thought I'd > ask about them before jumping in to learn one. > > I'm mainly interesting in ordinary document production rather than > outlining for source code files, but all thoughts are gratefully > welcomed. The NEWS file is in outline mode. I've used outline mode myself, it's easy to use and provides its functionality well. For document production, that seems to be the way to go. > Kai, I read through the thread on emacs-devel called "ill-advised > changes [was key bindings in hideshow.el]" (Feb. 2001), which discusses > outline major-mode and the desirability of an "always-on" structual > overview utility and which includes posts between yourself and RMS, but > this newbie is still a bit confused. :-) I've browsed part of that thread, but it seems that the thread is about keybindings only. I think that won't have much effect on outline (major) mode, since they are talking about minor modes only. kai -- ~/.signature is: umop ap!sdn (Frank Nobis)