From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Insert Euro symbol Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 11:52:43 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020419771 985 127.0.0.1 (3 May 2002 09:56:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 173ZnP-0000Fm-00 for ; Fri, 03 May 2002 11:56:11 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 173Zt3-0005Cx-00 for ; Fri, 03 May 2002 12:02:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 173ZlS-00037r-00; Fri, 03 May 2002 05:54:10 -0400 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de ([129.217.4.42]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 173ZkG-000342-00 for ; Fri, 03 May 2002 05:52:56 -0400 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id g439qob09061; Fri, 3 May 2002 11:52:50 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id LAA16370; Fri, 3 May 2002 11:52:44 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 6104) id C80C23AF1F; Fri, 3 May 2002 11:52:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 2 May 2002 19:06:47 +0300 (IDT)") Original-Lines: 39 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3527 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3527 Eli Zaretskii writes: > Why not augment the existing input methods to do what you find > convenient in C-x 8, or make a new input method, if augmenting > existing ones is impractical? Ah, I think I made a mistake in phrasing my message. Here is what I really want: Normally I use input method X but every once in a while I'd like to insert a character which is not in input method X. I would like a convenient method to press a couple of keys that lead to insertion of this character. Preferably a mnemonic key sequence :-) I don't think of C-x 8 as an implementation method, I only think of it as a way to type a sequence of keys to achieve what I want. Your suggestion of augmenting german-prefix to also make it possible to enter the euro sign is a good suggestion. However, it will not work for all cases. Input methods generally frob keys which are normally self-inserting. But if too many of the self-inserting keys change their meaning, usage of the self-inserting keys becomes cumbersome. (That's what I don't want to use latin-1-prefix: it frobs the "'" key which I use often.) So I would like to have a method which starts with a key which is normally not self-inserting. And C-x 8 just came to mind as an example. It doesn't have to be C-x 8. Does this explain what I'm looking for? (Incidentally, I think it might be nice to be able to insert named characters. So the user hits a key, then types, say "LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH OGONEK" (with completion), and then that character is inserted. This is, of course, orthogonal to the C-x 8 feature.) kai -- Silence is foo!