From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:53:19 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87fxs0hrrv.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <4840084C.2020405@gmail.com> <87d4n3ii41.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <48407716.5080704@gmail.com> <874p8fi9op.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212227675 21588 80.91.229.12 (31 May 2008 09:54:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 09:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Florian Beck Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 31 11:55:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K2Nnu-0007hD-OO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:55:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58053 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K2Nn8-00087w-RE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 05:54:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K2Nmd-0007nc-BR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 05:53:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K2Nma-0007ma-MW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 05:53:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55137 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K2Nma-0007mS-6b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 05:53:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:54165) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2NmZ-0003z4-Vo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 05:53:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:48602 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K2Nkq-0001N8-3A for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 05:52:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2NmU-0003yC-Sy for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 05:53:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]:37420) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2NmU-0003xY-Am for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 05:53:46 -0400 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4V9rgcC015492; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:53:42 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605011C3FC; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:53:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: .*T0'iU(sujq_j9\J>-d4fg; N/1++U#U$_5ii6k.=|"-n'?5O:Hyz&wi'-!I~,}7~GgT=0S /&-R5sbkNy5+Xo1y{Tw2KKxi@Xh"g@]Qc|.U<*]WDd)qvGowFDvfU1F]{EDho:7P0@|oOD=Bc{K4?> WP68K[Mx:}=`ZT'6g4'f+g?;`vri2!)xGy}3:=l'(/Cea0l4lo^H5#@/Z3ev Mail-Followup-To: Florian Beck , emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <874p8fi9op.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> (Florian Beck's message of "Sat, 31 May 2008 02:44:38 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-SIHOPE-DCC-3-Metrics: poseidon 1085; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98121 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:22509 Archived-At: On Sat, May 31 2008, Florian Beck wrote: > Look, if you think my setup is bizzare, please ignore my report. But > I don't think it is. Me neither, see the sub-thread[1] about this in April on emacs-devel. > I installed Ubuntu and used gnus to talk to my pop server.=20 POP is only for fetching mail, not for sending. > I didn't configure sendmail or a system mail client or > `mail-user-agent' because everything worked =E2=80=93 until after more th= en > a year I realised that emacs bug reports were not delived, despite > the message =C2=BBSending=E2=80=A6done=C2=AB. Emacs (or Gnus) doesn't know that your Gnus configuration allows to send mail, so it can't set `mail-user-agent' to `gnus-user-agent'. Gnus (`message.el') tried harder than `sendmail.el' to figure out if sendmail exists. See the function and the variable `message-send-mail-function': --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (defun message-send-mail-function () "Return suitable value for the variable `message-send-mail-function'." (cond ((and (require 'sendmail) (boundp 'sendmail-program) sendmail-program (executable-find sendmail-program)) 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) ((and (locate-library "smtpmail") (require 'smtpmail) smtpmail-default-smtp-server) 'message-smtpmail-send-it) ((locate-library "mailclient") 'message-send-mail-with-mailclient) (t (lambda () (error "Don't know how to send mail. Please customize `message-send-ma= il-function'"))))) ;; Useful to set in site-init.el (defcustom message-send-mail-function (message-send-mail-function) "Function to call to send the current buffer as mail. The headers should be delimited by a line whose contents match the variable `mail-header-separator'. Valid values include `message-send-mail-with-sendmail' `message-send-mail-with-mh', `message-send-mail-with-qmail', `message-smtpmail-send-it', `smtpmail-send-it', `feedmail-send-it' and `message-send-mail-with-mailclient'. The default is system dependent and determined by the function `message-send-mail-function'. See also `send-mail-function'." [...] --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- `sendmail.el' just uses `sendmail-send-it' without any check if /usr/sbin/sendmail (et al) even exist: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ;; Useful to set in site-init.el ;;;###autoload (defcustom send-mail-function (if (and window-system (memq system-type '(darwin windows-nt))) 'mailclient-send-it 'sendmail-send-it) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Bye, Reiner. [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/94623 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/94336/focus=3D94623 ,---- | From: Reiner Steib | Subject: Default of send-mail-function (was: ...) | To: Lennart Borgman | Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org | Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:05:49 +0200 | Message-ID: `---- --=20 ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/