From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `i' missing in etc/refcard.tex Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:04:15 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87r72zvefn.fsf@tallis.ilo.ucl.ac.uk> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1147716402 20668 80.91.229.2 (15 May 2006 18:06:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 15 20:06:37 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FfhSa-0004Uc-Iw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:06:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FfhSa-0007bb-14 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:06:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FfhQf-00063B-GR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:04:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FfhQe-00062a-Nd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:04:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FfhQe-00062O-Ix for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:04:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [134.60.1.1] (helo=mail.uni-ulm.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FfhT2-0006cn-Hs; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:06:53 -0400 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4FI4Fle011418; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:04:16 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix, from userid 170) id 8BED211A12; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:04:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Kevin Rodgers X-Face: mtjf/D:es1T0wHO:&CJ'ZXe"l; 3C--rw\z!{`eFwL){|]RpI+4{u25L=5C /0>KuGeTsk<~<&NE-AKV1560e!+RJeyWmSskkrJm?[vUV#66{T_m|Ae<||Ku#Mk5`y&O`n~z2; n8eP J5#2h@2eQgV@E70IY_0WlEx!"&giy{+\%h1LJox$zv@/l%ZmU4^tZA>xQpnkUBVC5.jpg#0'(+2?Rs )NAr:>3<=WxHE$ktbLysDIM5TbmHu*3, Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Kevin Rodgers's message of "Mon, 15 May 2006 11:14:51 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-sonic.net-Metrics: gemini 1156; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:54521 Archived-At: On Mon, May 15 2006, Kevin Rodgers wrote: > Richard Stallman wrote: >> If adding `i' causes the refcard to become overfull, I think we should >> _replace_ the "\key{search nodes for regexp}{M-s}" entry with an entry >> that describes the `i' command, since the latter is by far more >> important than the former. >> >> Maybe you are right. However, it would be hard to change the translations >> soon. So let's leave this for later. > > Hard? There are only 6 translations of etc/refcard.tex (cs, de, fr, pl, > ru, and sk). Even if we can't translate all, we should install the others. (I already volunteered to contact the translators in my initial mail.) > I submitted the following to 5 different online translation > services: [...] All of these German translation are all nonsense. ;-) > Surely the native German, French, and Russian speakers on this list > can agree on the best translation. That leaves just cs (Czech), pl > (Polish), and sk (Slovak). Here are suggestion for English, German and French if the plural "indices" should be used: --- refcard.tex 5 Feb 2006 23:44:47 -0000 1.13 +++ refcard.tex 15 May 2006 17:42:14 -0000 @@ -598,8 +598,9 @@ Other: \key{run Info {\bf tutorial}}{h} +\key{look up a subject in the indices}{i} +\key{search nodes for regexp}{s} \key{{\bf quit} Info}{q} -\key{search nodes for regexp}{M-s} \endindentedkeys --- de-refcard.tex 5 Feb 2006 23:44:47 -0000 1.7 +++ de-refcard.tex 15 May 2006 17:42:13 -0000 @@ -563,9 +563,9 @@ Sonstige: \key{Info {\bf Tutorial} starten}{h} -\key{Info Befehle zeigen}{?} +\key{Begriff in den Indices suchen}{i} +\key{Knoten nach reg. Ausd. durchsuchen}{s} \key{Info {\bf verlassen} }{q} -\key{Knoten nach reg. Ausd. durchsuchen}{M-s} \endindentedkeys --- fr-refcard.tex 5 Feb 2006 23:44:47 -0000 1.11 +++ fr-refcard.tex 15 May 2006 17:42:13 -0000 @@ -588,8 +588,9 @@ Autres : \key{lancer le {\bf didacticiel} Info}{h} +\key{recherchez un sujet dans les index}{i} +\key{rechercher les n\oe{}uds avec une expression rationnelle}{s} \key{{\bf quitter} Info}{q} -\key{rechercher les n\oe{}uds avec une expression rationnelle}{M-s} \endindentedkeys Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/