From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: bad tool-bar icons in Emacs 22.1 release Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:51:26 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181469115 32272 80.91.229.12 (10 Jun 2007 09:51:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 10 11:51:53 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HxK5Q-00068c-Lh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:51:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HxK5Q-0004wE-Ax for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:51:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HxK5O-0004w6-CG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:51:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HxK5N-0004vu-Sm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:51:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HxK5N-0004vr-Kb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:51:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HxK5M-0002T8-7X; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:51:48 -0400 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l5A9ph8n003011; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:51:44 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E6512A4C; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:51:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: 3Phac&+dw=IZHjhua]bp}LH<*p{qzj8u+, lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 09 Jun 2007 23:46:50 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-EATSERVER-Metrics: arktur 1166; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 X-detected-kernel: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:15818 Archived-At: On Sat, Jun 09 2007, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: "Drew Adams" >> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 10:11:26 -0700 >> Cc: Lennart Borgman >> >> This is one reason that I support the idea of an Emacs installer for >> Windows, such as the one Lennart Borgman supplies. Windows users are used to >> simply pushing a button to get something installed, perhaps answering yes or >> no a few times to simple customization questions, and perhaps changing a >> location or two - that's it. I agree that most Windows users expect this and it would be nice to have such an installer for Emacs as well. OTOH, experienced users/admins might prefer ZIPs because this makes sure that the installed files are located in a given directory and not spread across the system. Another advantage is the ability to run the application "without installation" directly from an USB stick. (I remember such considerations for Mozilla products, "portable Firefox", "portable Tunderbird"). So it might be good to offer ZIP _and_ installer versions. > Having the image support DLLs in the same zip file as the Emacs > binaries would solve the particular problem that is the subject of > this thread as well as an installer. If there's no problem WRT license issues, I think it would make much sense to include the image support DLLs in the official Emacs distribution for windows. Without these DLLs, Emacs' tool bar really looks antiquated. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/