From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bad tool-bar icons in Emacs 22.1 release Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:47:28 +0200 Message-ID: References: <466C80A3.1040102@gnu.org> <466D34C5.8050604@gnu.org> <4686267A.8050001@swipnet.se> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1183200495 7816 80.91.229.12 (30 Jun 2007 10:48:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jason Rumney To: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 30 12:48:08 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I4aUo-0004xy-Ti for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:48:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I4aUn-0002CZ-Ue for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 06:48:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I4aUj-0002Bx-7W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 06:48:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I4aUh-0002BX-Mu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 06:48:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I4aUh-0002BR-HO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 06:47:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I4aUd-0003f5-Ns; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 06:47:56 -0400 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l5UAlrM7020306; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:47:53 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.123]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F9F12A9C; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:47:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: 1; h7XMU[7l}$T@J.D}5z*w8Tg'}B5ArAWc8>2X~otB; kOjKs8X%|hTC#dG:%Vpx")x7S/`v :VXU#fZW$X$zdhEU.RfVQ@<-m9IuN{Hm"fW{,5]6kR'M*vEs+{5Cj!L(JTRzA$(},?5J=sm; %Od, Jason Rumney , emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <4686267A.8050001@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv=22?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?'s?= message of "Sat, 30 Jun 2007 11:46:34 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-debian-Metrics: poseidon 1169; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail.uni-ulm.de id l5UAlrM7020306 X-detected-kernel: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:74054 Archived-At: On Sat, Jun 30 2007, Jan Dj=E4rv wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 11 2007, Jason Rumney wrote: [...] >>> OK. Here is the license for libxpm, which is the most important for t= he >>> color versions of the tool-bar and other images that are a standard p= art >>> of Emacs. I think including just this library is enough to satisfy mo= st >>> users, but that is open to discussion. If others think JPEG, PNG, TIF= F >>> and GIF support are important enough to include, we can look at those >>> licenses and consider patent issues (for GIF at least, I don't think = the >>> patents have expired in all jurisdictions yet) separately. > > PNG is important. If we want Emacs to change icons when the Gnome/Gtk+= theme > changes, Emacs will then use PNG icons. Most (all?) Gnome/Gtk+ icons a= re in > PNG format. But this is code that Gtk+ loads dynamically with dlopen, = so > Emacs itself does not know that PNG is used. Not sure if that affects = the > license issue? But this isn't relevant to the issue at hand (the binary distribution of Emacs 22 for Windows on ), is it? Probably it wasn't clear from the quoted context: The binaries on don't include DLLs required to display XPM (tool bar), PNG, JPEG and other images in Emacs. The user needs to download them separately from several(?) third party sites as explained in . Else, the user only gets (ugly) monochrome PBM/PGM/PPM icons, as shown in the first screen shot in . Bye, Reiner. --=20 ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/