From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: -Q / --no-site-file and site-lisp/ (was: The new newsticker doesn't show my feeds) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:00:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87tzfs82cx.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <843anb4ui5.fsf@web.de> <87lk13fdco.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <84fxrak2gf.fsf@web.de> <87ej6u5z42.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <84bq1yjz7u.fsf@web.de> <87d4me331y.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <843an9uykr.fsf@web.de> <871w2tmdpq.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <84od5xtdlk.fsf@web.de> <87fxr96vyr.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <84hcbptbzg.fsf@web.de> <87bq1x6umm.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <84d4mdtb97.fsf@web.de> <877icl6t7n.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <848wx0kryt.fsf@web.de> <87prqbcb7f.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <84mylek7ff.fsf@web.de> <87wskghbni.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214244043 1716 80.91.229.12 (23 Jun 2008 18:00:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:00:43 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 23 20:01:27 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KAqM2-00065R-Ru for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:01:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34302 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KAqLD-000811-QK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:00:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KAqL7-0007yx-R3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:00:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KAqL6-0007y9-KS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:00:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50449 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KAqL6-0007xu-CR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:00:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]:61080) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KAqL5-0003Eh-Ml for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:00:28 -0400 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5NI0NUk014995 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:00:23 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B321C750 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:00:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: 1; h7XMU[7l}$T@J.D}5z*w8Tg'}B5ArAWc8>2X~otB; kOjKs8X%|hTC#dG:%Vpx")x7S/`v :VXU#fZW$X$zdhEU.RfVQ@<-m9IuN{Hm"fW{,5]6kR'M*vEs+{5Cj!L(JTRzA$(},?5J=sm; %Od (Tassilo Horn's message of "Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:07:45 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-INFN-TO-Metrics: triton 1233; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99793 Archived-At: On Mon, Jun 23 2008, Tassilo Horn wrote: > Ulf Jasper writes: >>> Yes, at least all the packages I install with my distro's package >>> manager. But the docs say -Q won't load the user init file and >>> site-start.el, so there seems to be something wrong... >> >> .../share/emacs/site-lisp is in the load path, even with `-Q'. One has >> to keep that in mind. Which I didn't do either. ;) > > Hm, wouldn't it be sensible to remove it from `load-path' if -Q was > given? I think so. See : ,---- | From: Reiner Steib | Subject: Should -Q / --no-site-file eval `subdirs.el'? | Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel | Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 14:15:01 +0200 | Message-ID: | | Hi, | | when running `emacs -Q', I was surprised to see site-lisp/*/ in my | `load-path'. Although the manual (cmdargs.texi [1]) doesn't say | anything about `subdirs.el' (it's not mentioned in the manual at all), | I'd expect "minimum customizations"[1] *not* to modify `load-path'. | E.g. I have some other Gnus version installed in site-lisp. I'd | expect Gnus 5.11 from Emacs 22 after `M-x gnus RET', but I get the | version from site-lisp. `---- Richard replied: ,---- | From: Richard Stallman | Subject: Re: Should -Q / --no-site-file eval `subdirs.el'? | Date: 2007-08-05 20:54:34 GMT | | I think it should load subdirs.el. Hiding the packages | available on your site is not the purpose. `---- Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/