-Q / --no-site-file and site-lisp/ (was: The new newsticker doesn't show my feeds)

[Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>]

On Mon, Jun 23 2008, Tassilo Horn wrote:

> Ulf Jasper <ulf.jasper@web.de> writes:
>>> Yes, at least all the packages I install with my distro's package
>>> manager.  But the docs say -Q won't load the user init file and
>>> site-start.el, so there seems to be something wrong...
>>
>> .../share/emacs/site-lisp is in the load path, even with `-Q'. One has
>> to keep that in mind. Which I didn't do either. ;)
>
> Hm, wouldn't it be sensible to remove it from `load-path' if -Q was
> given?

I think so.  See
<http://thread.gmane.org/v9lkcq9nzu.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>:

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| From: Reiner Steib
| Subject: Should -Q / --no-site-file eval `subdirs.el'?
| Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel
| Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 14:15:01 +0200
| Message-ID: <v9lkcq9nzu.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>
|
| Hi,
|
| when running `emacs -Q', I was surprised to see site-lisp/*/ in my
| `load-path'.  Although the manual (cmdargs.texi [1]) doesn't say
| anything about `subdirs.el' (it's not mentioned in the manual at all),
| I'd expect "minimum customizations"[1] *not* to modify `load-path'.
| E.g. I have some other Gnus version installed in site-lisp.  I'd
| expect Gnus 5.11 from Emacs 22 after `M-x gnus RET', but I get the
| version from site-lisp.
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Richard replied:

,----
| From: Richard Stallman
| Subject: Re: Should -Q / --no-site-file eval `subdirs.el'?
| Date: 2007-08-05 20:54:34 GMT
| 
| I think it should load subdirs.el.  Hiding the packages
| available on your site is not the purpose.
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Bye, Reiner.
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