From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [Reiter.Joachim@web.de: Failure to show "German Umlaute"] Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:44:40 +0100 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1195299976 27864 80.91.229.12 (17 Nov 2007 11:46:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Reiter.Joachim@web.de, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 17 12:46:20 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ItM7t-0002te-R2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:46:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItM7g-0006B8-CC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:46:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ItM7a-0006Ag-0q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:45:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ItM7Y-0006AD-Ad for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:45:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItM7Y-0006AA-4O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:45:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ItM7S-0003CR-S7; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:45:51 -0500 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAHBjmPs018608; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:45:48 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F40C12CBC; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:45:48 +0100 (CET) X-Face: P05mdcZT&lL[-s2=mw~RsllZ0zZAb?vdE}.s, Reiter.Joachim@web.de, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:29:15 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-HP_X86_64_8CPU-Metrics: poseidon 1245; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail.uni-ulm.de id lAHBjmPs018608 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:17000 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65710 Archived-At: On Fri, Nov 16 2007, Richard Stallman wrote: > Can someone please DTRT, then ack? This is a display problem on Windows. It's not specific to Gnus. I.e. in the following file (or the attachment example_Umlaut.txt in the original report) the display problem occurs as well: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- First line in : Zuletzt ge=F6ffnete Dateien First non-quoted line in : w=E4 w=F6 m=E4 m=F6 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- The output of `describe-char' from the original message might allow developers (on Windows) to reproduce the problem.=20 > ------- Start of forwarded message ------- > X-Spam-Status: No, score=3D0.0 required=3D5.0 tests=3DUNPARSEABLE_RELAY= =20 > autolearn=3Dfailed version=3D3.1.0 > To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > From: Joachim Reiter > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:41:50 +0100 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=3D"=3D-=3D-=3D" > Subject: Failure to show "German Umlaute" Richard, including the Message-ID header in the forwarded message would make it easier to find the original message. (X-Spam-Status isn't useful, IMHO.) > - --=3D-=3D-=3D > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers > usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. > > Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing lis= t, > and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group. > > Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug > and the precise symptoms of the bug: > > 1. Starting Emacs > 2. 'M-x Gnus' to start Gnus > 3. I.E. I would to read de.comp.editoren I press , if the Cursor > is in Group-Summary over this Group > 4. At first, I see the failure in Subject, so it has 'German Umlaut', > later in Article-Summary too > > The failure only is shown, so a 'German Umlaut' is together used with > 'm=3DF6' also 'w=3DF6', for this Example by the 'm' also the 'w' the ri= ght edge > of the Letters (m + w) shown 'cutted' - If I click one of the Letters > with Mouse, so the Cursor is on it, the look is OK, if I click another > one, the failure will return. > > So it looks like, the 'German Umlaut' over-paint the 'm' or the 'w' by > edge. > > I attached a Test-Case and the result of 'M-x describe-char RET' by > using the 'm' with '=3DF6', 'm' with 'o', 'w' with '=3DF6', 'w' with 'o= ' the '=3D > =3DF6' > and the 'o'. > Also I send a Text-file with a small Text including the Letters making > the failure also them without failure. > > For looking, how its shown by me, look at followed Links so you can see > this too... > > www.hobbyecke-pc.de/images/screensh1.png > www.hobbyecke-pc.de/images/screensh2.png > > If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, > please include the output from the following gdb commands: > `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. > If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file > g:/Emacs-22.1/etc/DEBUG for instructions. > > In GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) > of 2007-06-02 on RELEASE > Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 > configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --cflags -Ic:/gnuwin32/inc= lude' > > Important settings: > value of $LC_ALL: nil > value of $LC_COLLATE: nil > value of $LC_CTYPE: nil > value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil > value of $LC_MONETARY: nil > value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil > value of $LC_TIME: nil > value of $LANG: DEU > locale-coding-system: cp1252 > default-enable-multibyte-characters: t > > Major mode: Group > > Minor modes in effect: > gnus-topic-mode: t > gnus-undo-mode: t > recentf-mode: t > encoded-kbd-mode: t > tooltip-mode: t > tool-bar-mode: t > mouse-wheel-mode: t > menu-bar-mode: t > file-name-shadow-mode: t > global-font-lock-mode: t > font-lock-mode: t > blink-cursor-mode: t > unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t > utf-translate-cjk-mode: t > auto-compression-mode: t > line-number-mode: t > transient-mark-mode: t > > Recent input: > M-x g n u s =3D20 > y M-x r e p o r t - e m > > Recent messages: > Loading gnus-cache...done > Loading gnus-sum...done > Loading timezone...done > No new newsgroups > Checking new news... > Opening nndoc server on gnus-help...done > Opening nnml server...done > Checking new news...done > Loading gnus-topic...done > Loading emacsbug...done > > With friendly Greetings and TIA > Joachim Reiter > > - --=3D-=3D-=3D > Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3DTest-Case.txt > > ("G:\\Emacs-22.1\\bin\\emacs.exe" "-Q") > Loading encoded-kb...done > For information about the GNU Project and its goals, type C-h C-p. > Loading gnus...done > Loading gnus-start... > Loading easymenu...done > Loading gnus-start...done > Loading gnus-agent... > Loading regexp-opt...done > Loading gnus-agent...done > > nntp (news) open error: ''. Continue? (y or n)=20 > Reading g:/Emacs-Home/.newsrc.eld... > Opening nntp server on news... > Denied server > Opening nntp server on news...failed > - --=3D-=3D-=3D > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 > Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3Dexample_Umlaut.txt > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Wom=3DF6glich unm=3DF6glich, gew=3DF6hnlich m=3DF6glich. > M=3DF6gen ist Morgen womit m=3DF6glichst nicht Heute m=3DF6glich ist. > > - --=3D-=3D-=3D > Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3Da.txt > > character: a (97, #o141, #x61, U+0061) > charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) > code point: #x61 > syntax: w which means: word > category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l= :Latin > buffer code: #x61 > file code: #x61 (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix) > display: by this font (glyph code) > -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso885= 9-1 (#x61) > > - --=3D-=3D-=3D > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 > Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3Dae.txt > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > character: =3DE4 (2276, #o4344, #x8e4, U+00E4) > charset: latin-iso8859-1 (Right-Hand Part of Latin Alphabet 1 (ISO/= IEC =3D > 8859-1): ISO-IR-100.) > code point: #x64 > syntax: w which means: word > category: l:Latin > buffer code: #x81 #xE4 > file code: #xE4 (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix) > display: by this font (glyph code) > -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso885= 9-1 =3D > (#xE4) > > - --=3D-=3D-=3D > Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3Do.txt > > character: o (111, #o157, #x6f, U+006F) > charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) > code point: #x6F > syntax: w which means: word > category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l= :Latin > buffer code: #x6F > file code: #x6F (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix) > display: by this font (glyph code) > -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso885= 9-1 (#x6F) > > - --=3D-=3D-=3D > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 > Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3Doe.txt > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > character: =3DF6 (2294, #o4366, #x8f6, U+00F6) > charset: latin-iso8859-1 (Right-Hand Part of Latin Alphabet 1 (ISO/= IEC =3D > 8859-1): ISO-IR-100.) > code point: #x76 > syntax: w which means: word > category: l:Latin > buffer code: #x81 #xF6 > file code: #xF6 (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix) > display: by this font (glyph code) > -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso885= 9-1 =3D > (#xF6) > > - --=3D-=3D-=3D > Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3Dm.txt > > character: m (109, #o155, #x6d, U+006D) > charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) > code point: #x6D > syntax: w which means: word > category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l= :Latin > buffer code: #x6D > file code: #x6D (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix) > display: by this font (glyph code) > -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso885= 9-1 (#x6D) > > - --=3D-=3D-=3D > Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3Dm_without_Umlaut.txt > > character: m (109, #o155, #x6d, U+006D) > charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) > code point: #x6D > syntax: w which means: word > category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l= :Latin > buffer code: #x6D > file code: #x6D (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix) > display: by this font (glyph code) > -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso885= 9-1 (#x6D) > > - --=3D-=3D-=3D > Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3Dw.txt > > character: w (119, #o167, #x77, U+0077) > charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) > code point: #x77 > syntax: w which means: word > category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l= :Latin > buffer code: #x77 > file code: #x77 (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix) > display: by this font (glyph code) > -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso885= 9-1 (#x77) > > - --=3D-=3D-=3D > Content-Disposition: inline; filename=3Dw_whitout_Umlaut.txt > > character: w (119, #o167, #x77, U+0077) > charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) > code point: #x77 > syntax: w which means: word > category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l= :Latin > buffer code: #x77 > file code: #x77 (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix) > display: by this font (glyph code) > -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso885= 9-1 (#x77) > > - --=3D-=3D-=3D-- > ------- End of forwarded message ------- Bye, Reiner. --=20 ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/