From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default of send-mail-function Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:20:49 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87tzig16o6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87od8ng92x.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y77recuj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87prt2droq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fxtxeakj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <47FA8145.3010906@gmail.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207606997 11513 80.91.229.12 (7 Apr 2008 22:23:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 22:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lennart borgman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 08 00:23:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jizkj-0007Km-3C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:23:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jizk5-0000ja-Qa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:23:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jizin-0008Od-A2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:21:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jizim-0008OH-Kh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:21:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jizim-0008OE-HV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:21:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jizih-0003uK-U3; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:21:44 -0400 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m37MLhBM009104; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 00:21:43 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.41.37]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEEA1C63F; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 00:21:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: :6KQZ[nyoS_edmB.%gw-=)BYth^|2+Y+^cu%I$FSx!&>-'om>3H7A|M&n(V7fIo3P.; yo.b yq4$p; ZaBtkv)\}biaiBQe"mD}iib1AA@99-fZ7i*bLhNRVC&0Wkxg9)SH?oWc@{ Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:44:22 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-PacNet-SG-Metrics: poseidon 1358; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94637 Archived-At: On Mon, Apr 07 2008, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Reiner Steib [...] >> /usr/sbin/sendmail typically exist on every GNU/Linux systems, however >> on today's end-user desktops, it's quite likely that it has not have >> been configured correctly. >> >> On system-type darwin and windows-nt, send-mail-function defaults to >> mailclient-send-it which passes the mail to "the system's mail client" >> via a mailto-URL. > > But it's not guaranteed that "the system's mail client" on Windows is > configured correctly, either. You need at the very least to tell it > the name or address of your ISP's mail server; that isn't automatic. Sure. > So I don't see how a Windows box is so very different from a GNU/Linux > system. It needs email setup as well. The main difference WRT send-mail-function is that it is extremely unlikely to find a functional /usr/sbin/sendmail on Windows systems. If people think that it is more likely to find a functional mailto-URL handler also on GNU/Linux, we can discuss if Emacs should follow "the tyranny of numbers" (as Manoj calls it). I don't have a very strong opinion about it (that's why I wrote "One might argue [...]. I'd tend to agree"). Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/