problem while running gnus

problem while running gnus

[null7]

Hallo
When I try to run gnus it fails with the following message
Symbol's value as variable is void: message-valid-fqdn-regexp

Just before running gnus I do M-x toggle-debug-on-error, but it does not open debug backtrace at gnus run.

*Message* buffer tells:
Loading gnus-agent...
Loading executable...done
custom-initialize-reset: Symbol's value as variable is void: message-valid-fqdn-regexp


I'm running:
emacs-version's value is "21.3.1"
gnus-version's value is "Gnus v5.10.6"

I'm running the newest version of gnus. To make emacs run it I delete previous version of grus from `load-path'. then I set up new path:

Loading /root/emacs/.emacs.gnus.el (source)...
deleting gnus path from load-path...
deleting path: /usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/gnus from load-path ;;; old path is removed at emacs startup
Loading /root/emacs/.emacs.gnus.el (source)...done

Code that does this trick is the following:

(setq my-gnus-dir "/root/emacs-packages/gnus-5.10.6")
(message "deleting gnus path from load-path..." (buffer-name))
      (dolist (load-path-entry load-path)
	(if (string-match "gnus" load-path-entry)
	    (progn
	      (message "deleting path: %s from load-path" load-path-entry)
	      (setq load-path (delete load-path-entry load-path)))))

      (setq load-path (cons (concat my-gnus-dir "/lisp") load-path))
      (require 'gnus-load)

      (require 'info)
      (setq Info-directory-list
	    (cons (concat my-gnus-dir "/texi") Info-default-directory-list))
      


finally, 
load-path's value is 
("/root/emacs-packages/gnus-5.10.6/lisp" "/root/emacs-packages/vm-7.19" "/root/emacs-packages/bbdb-2.34/lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/site-lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/Mule-UCS" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/psgml" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/table" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/leim" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/toolbar" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/textmodes" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/progmodes" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/play" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/obsolete" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/net" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/mail" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/language" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/international" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/eshell" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/emulation" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/emacs-lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/calendar" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/psg
 ml")

Do You know what might be the reason of that ?
Greetings

Re: problem while running gnus

[Reiner Steib]

On Wed, Jan 18 2006, null7 wrote:

> When I try to run gnus it fails with the following message
> Symbol's value as variable is void: message-valid-fqdn-regexp

Entering this line in Google Groups pointed me to the following thread
which (most probably) includes the answer to your problem:

http://www.google.de/groups?as_umsgid=mailman.20573.1135710618.20277.help-gnu-emacs%40gnu.org&hl=en
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/32235

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: problem while running gnus

[Kevin Rodgers]

null7 wrote:
> Hallo
> When I try to run gnus it fails with the following message
> Symbol's value as variable is void: message-valid-fqdn-regexp
> 
> Just before running gnus I do M-x toggle-debug-on-error, but it does not open debug backtrace at gnus run.
> 
> *Message* buffer tells:
> Loading gnus-agent...
> Loading executable...done
> custom-initialize-reset: Symbol's value as variable is void: message-valid-fqdn-regexp
> 
> 
> I'm running:
> emacs-version's value is "21.3.1"
> gnus-version's value is "Gnus v5.10.6"
> 
> I'm running the newest version of gnus. To make emacs run it I delete previous version of grus from `load-path'. then I set up new path:
> 
> Loading /root/emacs/.emacs.gnus.el (source)...
> deleting gnus path from load-path...
> deleting path: /usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/gnus from load-path ;;; old path is removed at emacs startup
> Loading /root/emacs/.emacs.gnus.el (source)...done
> 
> Code that does this trick is the following:
> 
> (setq my-gnus-dir "/root/emacs-packages/gnus-5.10.6")
> (message "deleting gnus path from load-path..." (buffer-name))
>       (dolist (load-path-entry load-path)
> 	(if (string-match "gnus" load-path-entry)
> 	    (progn
> 	      (message "deleting path: %s from load-path" load-path-entry)
> 	      (setq load-path (delete load-path-entry load-path)))))
> 
>       (setq load-path (cons (concat my-gnus-dir "/lisp") load-path))
>       (require 'gnus-load)
> 
>       (require 'info)
>       (setq Info-directory-list
> 	    (cons (concat my-gnus-dir "/texi") Info-default-directory-list))
>       
> 
> 
> finally, 
> load-path's value is 
> ("/root/emacs-packages/gnus-5.10.6/lisp" "/root/emacs-packages/vm-7.19" "/root/emacs-packages/bbdb-2.34/lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/site-lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/Mule-UCS" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/psgml" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/table" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/leim" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/toolbar" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/textmodes" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/progmodes" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/play" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/obsolete" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/net" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/mail" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/language" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/international" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/eshell" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/emulation" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/emacs-lisp" "/usr/share/emacs/21.3/lisp/calendar" "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/p
 sg
>  ml")
> 
> Do You know what might be the reason of that ?

I can't find gnus-load in the Emacs 21.4 or Gnus 5.10.6 distributions.
What does `M-x locate-library RET gnus-load' say?  Does `M-x
list-load-path-shadows' display any Gnus libraries?

I think you should probably (require 'gnus) instead.

-- 
Kevin Rodgers

Re: problem while running gnus

[Reiner Steib]

On Wed, Jan 18 2006, Kevin Rodgers wrote:

> I can't find gnus-load in the Emacs 21.4 or Gnus 5.10.6 distributions.

,----[ (info "(gnus)Oort Gnus") / GNUS-NEWS ]
|    * `(require 'gnus-load)'
| 
|      If you use a stand-alone Gnus distribution, you'd better add
|      `(require 'gnus-load)' into your `~/.emacs' after adding the Gnus
|      lisp directory into load-path.
| 
|      File `gnus-load.el' contains autoload commands, functions and
|      variables, some of which may not be included in distributions of
|      Emacsen.
`----

> What does `M-x locate-library RET gnus-load' say?  Does `M-x
> list-load-path-shadows' display any Gnus libraries?

My guess is that parts of Gnus or message have already been loaded
before the `load-path' is changed.

Bye, Reiner.
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      (o o)
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Re: problem while running gnus

[null7]

Reiner,
You were right, I moved replacing of old gnus directory to the beginning of .emacs file and everyting started working fine.
Thank YOu for help.


Reiner Steib writes:
 > On Wed, Jan 18 2006, Kevin Rodgers wrote:
 > 
 > > I can't find gnus-load in the Emacs 21.4 or Gnus 5.10.6 distributions.
 > 
 > ,----[ (info "(gnus)Oort Gnus") / GNUS-NEWS ]
 > |    * `(require 'gnus-load)'
 > | 
 > |      If you use a stand-alone Gnus distribution, you'd better add
 > |      `(require 'gnus-load)' into your `~/.emacs' after adding the Gnus
 > |      lisp directory into load-path.
 > | 
 > |      File `gnus-load.el' contains autoload commands, functions and
 > |      variables, some of which may not be included in distributions of
 > |      Emacsen.
 > `----
 > 
 > > What does `M-x locate-library RET gnus-load' say?  Does `M-x
 > > list-load-path-shadows' display any Gnus libraries?
 > 
 > My guess is that parts of Gnus or message have already been loaded
 > before the `load-path' is changed.
 > 
 > Bye, Reiner.
 > -- 
 >        ,,,
 >       (o o)
 > ---ooO-(_)-Ooo---  |  PGP key available  |  http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
 > 
 > 
 > 
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